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Lock Turned 180 - Oops

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Do not post safe related questions in this sub forum! Post them in This Old Safe

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take a second look

Postby raimundo » 12 Jun 2007 7:00

take a second look at that photo of the cylinder,

the basic, common beginner problem is that the top pins that have separated at the shear line fall into the bottom of the plug, that is in the US where keys are inserted serrated side up. The OP states that he pushed the 'thing' down, so he may be in Europe, where keys are used serrated side down,

the plug in the photo presents two problems for the US picker, when turned 180 degrees, the top pins may enter the bottom of the upside down plug, but the cylinder in the photo also has uncapped holes on the bottom, and the lowere pins now rotated 180 degrees are aimed straight into those holes, this could be a problem with a key as well as with a pick, perhaps that lockset that was designed for that cylinder never turns 180 in use, as pins could enter those holes in the bottom of the cylinder. here they might fall out altogether, or just lock up the cylinder in another interesting way. combined with the top pins in the bottom of the rotated plug. :? when you see a cylinder call 'peak' with a little pin at the front of the cylinder, this can be a problem also. there is a best lock company cylinder called peak and there are various renegade unbranded cylinders that have the little pin.
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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take a second look

Postby raimundo » 12 Jun 2007 7:00

take a second look at that photo of the cylinder,

the basic, common beginner problem is that the top pins that have separated at the shear line fall into the bottom of the plug, that is in the US where keys are inserted serrated side up. The OP states that he pushed the 'thing' down, so he may be in Europe, where keys are used serrated side down,

the plug in the photo presents two problems for the US picker, when turned 180 degrees, the top pins may enter the bottom of the upside down plug, but the cylinder in the photo also has uncapped holes on the bottom, and the lowere pins now rotated 180 degrees are aimed straight into those holes, this could be a problem with a key as well as with a pick, perhaps that lockset that was designed for that cylinder never turns 180 in use, as pins could enter those holes in the bottom of the cylinder. here they might fall out altogether, or just lock up the cylinder in another interesting way. combined with the top pins in the bottom of the rotated plug. :? when you see a cylinder call 'peak' with a little pin at the front of the cylinder, this can be a problem also. there is a best lock company cylinder called peak and there are various renegade unbranded cylinders that have the little pin.
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
raimundo
 
Posts: 7130
Joined: 21 Apr 2004 9:02
Location: Minnneapolis

take a second look

Postby raimundo » 12 Jun 2007 7:02

take a second look at that photo of the cylinder,

the basic, common beginner problem is that the top pins that have separated at the shear line fall into the bottom of the plug, that is in the US where keys are inserted serrated side up. The OP states that he pushed the 'thing' down, so he may be in Europe, where keys are used serrated side down,

the plug in the photo presents two problems for the US picker, when turned 180 degrees, the top pins may enter the bottom of the upside down plug, but the cylinder in the photo also has uncapped holes on the bottom, and the lowere pins now rotated 180 degrees are aimed straight into those holes, this could be a problem with a key as well as with a pick, perhaps that lockset that was designed for that cylinder never turns 180 in use, as pins could enter those holes in the bottom of the cylinder. here they might fall out altogether, or just lock up the cylinder in another interesting way. combined with the top pins in the bottom of the rotated plug. :? when you see a cylinder call 'peak' with a little pin at the front of the cylinder, this can be a problem also. there is a best lock company cylinder called peak and there are various renegade unbranded cylinders that have the little pin.
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
raimundo
 
Posts: 7130
Joined: 21 Apr 2004 9:02
Location: Minnneapolis

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