First Home Lock?

by **Mustang8622** » 26 Jun 2007 11:57

I have a lock on my bedroom door, I installed it myself sometime ago for eventual picking practice. The thing is, it's getting me nowhere. I've been using a decent pickset I got from southord, read through the MIT guide, understand. However, this lock is giving me an issue. It seems like it should be an easy lock. Not sure of the brand. I'm a newbie, so maybe I'm just going about it all wrong. Here are some pics:

The Lock:

The Key:

The Tools I'm Using For This Job:

(I have alot more, 4 more tension wrenches and 12 more picks/rakes).

My procedure is as follows: Apply torque using the tensioner wrench. I adjust it until I set the first pin (not the first pin usually, which I understand as normal due to defects in engineering the lock there is often an order in which they set which isn't as easy as 1-5).

I set a pin, proceed until I have set all the pins. I think. I can never tell if I've hit that fifth pin. It is hard to set, I thought I set it but the lock won't open, it just will not turn, I can get it pretty far and it's rotating as I set the pins, but... either I'm not getting that fifth pin or I'm doing something wrong. I adjust the torque until the fifth pin sets, or I think it sets, but it just isn't opening the lock!!!!

Any help guys?

Thanks,
Louis

by **unbreakable** » 26 Jun 2007 12:10

sig wrote:"Stealing the mustang was only a precursor for whats to come"

Could you explain your sig quote to me? Its not from any TV show or movie I know of..

by **UWSDWF** » 26 Jun 2007 12:23

Welcome,
Looking at both the lock and the key (which isn't for this lock as the key is for a wafer lock) I can easily say that both locks should be easy to pick but....

DO NOT PICK LOCKS YOU OR ANYONE ELSE RELY ON, they can and will break, then your house/car/safe/chasity belt is vulnerable or unable to be opened (think: emergency situation).

You may say that you bought that lock specifically for picking and well... no you didn't you bought for a door, go otu buy a cheap deadbolt and follow d_b guide

by **freakparade3** » 26 Jun 2007 12:46

My question is did you really think the users here would not know the key you posted a picture of is not for that lock? We been around a day or 2. Get a deadbolt at your local store, then come back and ask us about that one.

by **Mustang8622** » 26 Jun 2007 22:08

Seriously guys, I don't know why all the suspicion but that key is for that lock. Which I bought for picking, I dont need a lock on my bedroom door seeing as how I live alone. And to PROVE that the key BELONGS to that lock I have taken a video below. . What is wrong with you all. I come here as a young adult wanting to learn the trade of lock picking as a practical and novel skill and I get this? You call yourselves a community?

WATCH THE VIDEO BELOW AND STOP TALKING. Before I loose anymore respect for you.

Moderator - please? What's going on here.

Now can we please move on and help me figure out what my error in thinking or technique is here?

http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q248 ... 4261_0.flv

by **Mustang8622** » 26 Jun 2007 22:10

P.S. The quote is between me and my girlfriend (MustangStacy) because my GT was hers once, and when we got together I used it so much that she got her own Cobra now which I plan to also ""Steal""

by **Rodfather23** » 26 Jun 2007 22:30

Mustang

I did have a long typed out post about your reply, but I decided to delete it and just say this.

You might have just alienated yourself from 2 very help people (freak and uwsdwf) I can say from experience that freak has been very helpful to me even with some noobie questions.

and they are not here to gain your respect......you are here to gain theirs..

by **keysman** » 26 Jun 2007 23:34

freakparade3, UWSDWF:
1. If you blow- up the picture 1st picture, 1st post) of the lock it is clearly a pin tumbler lock, weather the key actually fits that lock is certainly debatable. The comments about the wafer lock are understandable, as schlage wafer locks often have a similar style knob .

Mustang8622:
2. The lock is harder to pick because the cylinder is upside down, by US standards.
Flip the lock over and you will find it picks quite a bit easier.

3. Follow the rest of the advice given.. Read the tutorials, and don't pick locks you rely on.

by **freakparade3** » 27 Jun 2007 0:07

I will say that a Schlage wafer lock is possible, but from the bow of the key I don't think so. I may have made a mistake so I will offer you this. You say that you are setting pins. Are you SURE it's a pin tumbler lock? If so I will recommend that you stop using rakes and use your hook pick. When you learn to single pin pick then you should work on raking. Lay your key next to your pick and mark with pencil where every cut on the key is. A search for the LSI guide will tell you exactly hor to do this. That way you will know where each pin is by looking at the marks on your pick. That will help you be sure of the 5th pin you were wondering about. If it is indeed a wafer lock did your set come with a ball pick or half ball pick? If you have one thats the pick you need for wafer locks.

by **Mustang8622** » 27 Jun 2007 0:14

Thanks for the advice freak, it's a tumbler lock. I do have the ball and half ball pick though. I appreciate the advice, I will stop using the rake.

Also, I was wondering about the fact that the lock is "upside down" to what I'm use to. I'm going to give it another shot.

Sorry if I came off as rude, it sucks being new, especially when I get called a liar when I'm not.

by **Mustang8622** » 27 Jun 2007 3:05

Update: Picked my first lock. Took me under 5 minutes once I understood. It appears to have a security pin :-\ which is odd. It's not as cheap a lock as I thought however.

My front door deadbolt and regular lock both picked (WHICH IS DUMB, becuase they are relied on), same with the apartment next to me, which is currently vacant.

So far, I have had no luck with a masterlock #15 though, it doesn't feel the same as a regular lock and the pins don't appear to be binding. Which tool is best? I've ruled out my reg rakes and my ball obviously, maybe diamond?

I found a proper tensioner.

by **Shrub** » 27 Jun 2007 4:50

Mustang8622 wrote: Moderator - please? What's going on here.

Our members are questioning you because you are doing a few things that normally point towards a theif,

Personally i never mounted practice cylinders in my bedroom door and instead went for a block of wood but i guess its whatever works for you,

Your having a go at picking and i respect that,

Mustang8622 wrote: My front door deadbolt and regular lock both picked (WHICH IS DUMB, becuase they are relied on), same with the apartment next to me, which is currently vacant.

Aw now there you go loosing all that respect again, persoanlly im gogin to call you a thief and say that i hope you get caught,
Even after the way you were treated when it was thought you were breaking in to somewhere you then did actually go and break into somewhere and not only that but then brag about it here,

Your a thief and and an arseole, it was stated that you MAY have alienated a couple of members, well i can say here and now youve definatley done a mod and i suspect the rest of the member base because what youve done is lowest of the low,

I leave this thread open to show you that i will not be the only person thinkign this and to show you that its not just me saying this then locking the thread, if im not agreed with but you are then they will also state that so its for the benefit of both of us the thread is left open for further comment on this subject,

Ps, cobra's and mustangs? get a real car

by **freakparade3** » 27 Jun 2007 8:34

Mustang8622 wrote: My front door deadbolt and regular lock both picked (WHICH IS DUMB, becuase they are relied on), same with the apartment next to me, which is currently vacant.

You gave a compelling statement that led me to believe you were just another picker, Now I know you are really a thief if training. I must be getting soft, I'll stick with my first instinct from now on. You sir are a poopyhead.

by **Mustang8622** » 27 Jun 2007 13:08

I was just too cheap to go buy locks because I don't get paid until next friday and I wanted something to pick. The closest thing was my front door, all the other locks inside my house are security locks. The apartment next to me is actually vacant! Seriously.

I would never pick any lock that someone else uses for security purposes. Honestly, if I wanted to be a theif, aren't there much more SIMPLY ways to steal? C'mon now guys, an open window vs. a lock makes more sense. I'll always be able to pry a window up with no damage, a lock though, takes time, and even looks suspicious.

Seriously, just trying to learn the trade because it fascinates me and nothing else.

by **UWSDWF** » 27 Jun 2007 13:11

DO NOT PICK LOCKS YOU OR ANYONE ELSE RELY ON
I repeat DO NOT PICK LOCKS YOU OR ANYONE ELSE RELY ON, they can and will break, then your house/car/safe/chasity belt is vulnerable or unable to be opened (think: emergency situation).

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