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by Trip Doctor » 29 Jun 2007 0:25
http://www.lockpickshop.com/FIBER-PICKS-S.html
Any of you guys familiar with this? It caught my eye when I was browsing LPS.. never seen this before. (Actually, I think I might have but never cliked on it for details.)
I read the little 'How it works' description but I could use a bit of a larger one, lol.
Has anyone here used anything like this before? Even after reading the description, I can't exacty imagine how it works. (But the pictures kind of confuse me as well).
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by mh » 29 Jun 2007 0:27
sort of self-impressioning.
"The techs discovered that German locks were particularly difficult" - Robert Wallace, H. Keith Melton w. Henry R. Schlesinger, Spycraft: The secret history of the CIA's spytechs from communism to Al-Qaeda (New York: Dutton, 2008), p. 210
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by Trip Doctor » 29 Jun 2007 0:35
Son of a bitcharoonie. I don't know why I didn't search BEFORE posting this, because a search gave me another thread on this. Well it sounds like they're poop by everyone's comments.
I just didn't exactly get the priciple. If the fibers dont have enough strenth to overlift already set pins, how would they have enough strength to lift them with the spring tension in the first place?
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by Shrub » 29 Jun 2007 6:15
Probably directing your questions on exisiting threads on the subject would be better instead of carrying on this one,
They are known to not be very good but the princible looks sound on paper,
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by raimundo » 29 Jun 2007 8:32
Actually as I remember the discussions, everyone who dissed the idea had never tried them, the concensus was to dismiss the concept without ever trying it. So far as I know, no member of lp101 has ever said, I got the fiber picks, now Im gonna find out what they can do.
My own posts in those threads were generally "if they make it long enough that I can give all the pins in a medeco a good brushing at the same time, (bristles along at least an inch of the shaft) I will buy one and try it out.
the 'lockmasters.org' or whatever that site is that has them also allows the customer to specifiy the bristles hard soft or stainless. I think the concensus was to dismiss without experience.
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by zeke79 » 29 Jun 2007 8:43
Ray,
You are correct in that matter. Most who posted had never tried them. IIRC though I have spoke with someone here who had bought a set (yikes expensive $$$$) and did not have much luck with them on the high quality locks with good tolerances. I have do not recall what their idea of a lock with good tolerances was though.
I think these tools would come down to one very important thing.... TENSION  . As is the key with everything else picking  .
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by Shrub » 29 Jun 2007 12:02
Ray there are a few on here who bought them, i can think of two threads in which two differant people had said they had bought them and found them not up to expectation,
That said i only said they are known not to be very good i am not speaking from experiance although i did make my own and never got it to work,
I dont own a jacknife but i know they are next to useless unless your a good picker to begin with,
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by Trip Doctor » 29 Jun 2007 13:51
Well thanks for the responces. I guess I don't really have more questions/comments on this, but if I do I'll throw them in the other thread.
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by Shrub » 29 Jun 2007 20:43
Well its here now and has enough info and is long enough to keep going so you may as well keep gogin,
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by Biaxial Ranger » 3 Jul 2007 13:38
I got those for the shop I used to manage, they were supposed to make up for the owners lack of ability in picking. They were advertised as being able to even open a Medeco with minimal practice in comparison to real picks.
They were garbage when they were new, and they held up horribly after minimal use. I've picked more than my fair share of locks, being a LockSmith. And neither I or anyone else ever got one lock to open, not even weiser..... 
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by Trip Doctor » 3 Jul 2007 18:45
Haha. It's kind of ironic considering their price. Looks like they wrote a super peachy description about them to make them look like magic picks. But now we know... lol.
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