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by davou » 28 Jun 2007 18:56
salzi684 wrote:I never said it was going to be simple or even possible, I just said it was something I was trying to do. I still have a lot of math and physics to do on the design I have currently come up with and then check the part instances in IDEAS once I get it all drawn up. This isn't going to be something that I crank out in one night, its going to take some time.
About the pins being spaced differently, you should be able to tell which pin you are measuring, assuming you can do it while picking locks, and then record that measurement. Then you can check your measurements against a book of key depth cuts match your measurement to the closest key cut and decode the lock in a similar fashion.
I don't wanna sound like a buzz kill, but this device strikes me as a bit redundant... After all, once a lock is picked, re-pinning it, or cutting a new key is as simple as getting the cylinder out.
I would imagine that suck a precision tool (as your describing) would cost so much that it would be hardly worth the price....
Maybe you can try using a set of calipers, affixing a feeler pick to it, and ad-hocking a way to zero it when its in the 'closed' position? Afterwards, all you would need to know is the tolerance space between the plug and cylinder? I'm new to this, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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by unbreakable » 28 Jun 2007 19:30
davou wrote:I don't wanna sound like a buzz kill, but this device strikes me as a bit redundant... After all, once a lock is picked, re-pinning it, or cutting a new key is as simple as getting the cylinder out.
I would imagine that suck a precision tool (as your describing) would cost so much that it would be hardly worth the price....
Maybe you can try using a set of calipers, affixing a feeler pick to it, and ad-hocking a way to zero it when its in the 'closed' position? Afterwards, all you would need to know is the tolerance space between the plug and cylinder? I'm new to this, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:55 pm
The thread is 2 1/2 years old! I don't think theres any buzz left to kill.....
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by freakparade3 » 28 Jun 2007 20:13
I don't see a big problem with the newer users bringing old threads back. Most every noob question is covered in the search, and they get flamed if they post their question in a new topic. This may be an old forgotten about thread to the people who have been aroung a while but it's new to someone who just joined and the new users may have something worth while to add. Just me opinion, flame me if you so wish.
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by Trip Doctor » 28 Jun 2007 21:08
Well is Salzi is still around... wouldn't a comb pick with some aluminum foil tape work perfect what what he's trying to do..?
Doesn't seem like impressioning with a key blank would work here because after the lock is picked, there is no spring tension.
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by unbreakable » 28 Jun 2007 21:13
freakparade3 wrote:I don't see a big problem with the newer users bringing old threads back. Most every noob question is covered in the search, and they get flamed if they post their question in a new topic. This may be an old forgotten about thread to the people who have been aroung a while but it's new to someone who just joined and the new users may have something worth while to add. Just me opinion, flame me if you so wish.
Neither do I have a problem with people bringing up old threads.
I just found it rather funny that he brought back a 2 1/2 year old thread to shoot down their method, and apologize for killing their buzz. I saw a good discussion on a picked lock decoder maybe a month or less ago, and how he found this, and missed the other I don't know...
It wasn't intended as an insult, I just found it funny, and thought maybe he hadn't realized that the thread was 2 1/2 years old, and he wasn't really going to hurt anyones feelings...
Hope this clears things up,
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by freakparade3 » 28 Jun 2007 21:32
No worries. I knew you did not intend it as an insult. Some members get ticked off at bringing back old threads. I wonder how they expect any of the new members to get their post count up if they are afraid to post anything. 
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by Legion303 » 29 Jun 2007 0:56
unbreakable wrote: I just found it rather funny that he brought back a 2 1/2 year old thread
That's uncalled for. It's actually 3 1/2 years. :P
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by Shrub » 29 Jun 2007 6:05
davou wrote:I don't wanna sound like a buzz kill, but this device strikes me as a bit redundant... After all, once a lock is picked, re-pinning it, or cutting a new key is as simple as getting the cylinder out.
I would imagine that suck a precision tool (as your describing) would cost so much that it would be hardly worth the price....
Maybe you can try using a set of calipers, affixing a feeler pick to it, and ad-hocking a way to zero it when its in the 'closed' position? Afterwards, all you would need to know is the tolerance space between the plug and cylinder? I'm new to this, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Ill correct you and suggest that you learn a bit before shooting ideas down that are actually in production in many guises and have been since well before this thread was even made 3 years ago,
I dont know what it is but noobs telling others what they can or cant do really gets my back up hence my abruptness in my reply,
Ive no problem with resurecting old threads and would encourage it as often as possable but only in the case of information gathering, in this case the user posted to simply shoot an idea down that was made 3 years ago and for that it wasnt nessacary,
If indeed davou wanted to talk constructively about lock decoders (something this thread wasnt even about in the first place) then he could have chosen one of the later threads on the subject,
Trip doctor, please read the rules regarding what is or isnt alowed to be discussed in the open forums, comb picks definatley are not,
Lock decodeing is also deemed advanced material,
I think this thread is dead now if for no other reason than it was made to give away some code books over 3 years ago, if the op still has them i would be very supprised (although offering to give them to noobs was totaly wrong imho)
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by Shrub » 29 Jun 2007 20:06
Perhaps i just need to clarify slightly, comb picks are deemed advanced but foil impressioning isnt,
This isnt however the thread for any further discussion, theres a couple on foil impressioning if you want to add to those 
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