Need advise, locksmith in training

[wolt]

Hi, I'm fresh to ths site and a noob at lockpicking, but It's coming, It's coming ;p
Anyway, the things this:
I stumbled over this forum by pre chanse, I started to read and tought to myself ( interesting...) So i printed some pictures of lockpicks and made them out of those thing in the windshield wipers, and then I started to pick.
That's 2 days ago, now I can pick a camel security padlock in around 5 min with a homemade rake and a torque wrench.
So now I'm wondering, is this a simple lock? And what kind of lock should i move on to now?
Thanks in advanse, hope ya can help.

[HeadHunterCEO]

locksmith in training huh

get five kwikset knobs 440 and make three diffrent keys open up each lock

[marso]

Since you are in norway I have no idea what sort of locks are at the different levels of picking. I would go to the hardware store (järnvaror) and buy the cheapest door knob type lock (or replacement cylinder) and also notice what are more expensive. Cost does not always indicate quality but it is a good start. If you see the brands you can gladly post here and ask how difficult they are.

[wolt]

Thanks for the fast replies.
The problem is that here in Norway a normal door lock costs about 48-50 US $, to me that's kind of expensive since I'm a student and dont have any income.
But what I wont to know is what kind of difficulty grade the camel security padlock is, I've found out that it got 4 pins... and that's about all i know..
It sucks beeing a noob, but everybody needs to start somewhere, right?
Oh, and one more thing: Is there a way to make the torque wrench get a better grip in the lock? It tends to slide of and down into the lock, got any advise on that?
Thanks for bothering to answer me, I really appreciate it.

[technik]

Oh, and one more thing: Is there a way to make the torque wrench get a better grip in the lock? It tends to slide of and down into the lock, got any advise on that?

Yep, get a bigger tension wrench, either buy one from southord.com or make one from an allen key (if your doing the later, search for the plans)

good luck

[Quin]

For locks go to car boot sales, ask local locksmiths if they have any old ones you can have or do what I do and pick a friends house. They are shocked at how fast you can open the lock so you get them new and better locks while keeping their old ones

Also remember you don't need the full lock. The cylinders will do just fine to practise on.

[wolt]

I'm just starting to like this site better and better by the minut =)
Your all so nice and stuff, i really appreciate it guys!
I'm just wondering, how many here is actually real locksmiths?
Oh, and a last thing for this tread: what pick would be the best to use for a beginner when starting on house locks, you know, like six pins and so?


Edited by Chucklz for language: Please read the rules

[marso]

If you go to "Discussion" and then "FAQs" and then to "LP101 FAQs" there is the answer to what picks you should buy.

The number of locksmiths is growing however I still think it is about a 1/4 or less. Just a small thing the main advantage of being a locksmith is the knowledge of how locks work. There are a number of locksmiths that are not that good at picking, and hence they use pickguns and the like. Some of the people who I take advice from regularly are non locksmiths, however I always enjoy hearing the tidbits from the locksmiths why we do things different ways or learning about how a new lock works.

[Romstar]

I'm a Locksmith here, I think I agree with Marso. The number of locksmiths here is less than a quarter of the membership. Although, I think that there are a fair number of locksmiths who are posting.

I'm personally in agreement with Varjeal when he said that you should have a small selection of different picks. There are people here that will tell you that you can get by with a diamond, a lifter and a tension wrench. While it is true to some degree, it isn't the same as having a small selection.

I think you should have a medium and small diamond, a medium and small lifter, one ball pick, the "c" and "s" snakes, and about three double ended tension wrenches.

All of my wrenches have different widths on each end. That gives you 2 light, 2 medium, and 2 heavy tension tools. Of course, you can always select two medium tension tools, for an effective four medium tensioners.

I'd consider this a good, well rounded pick set suitable for the beginner, and the advanced picker.

Romstar

[Mad Mick]

Your all so nice and shit

LOL.

[wolt]

Yo, mad mick, what ya laughing at? take a trip surfing true the diffrent forum sites around the internet and see how many pages care about noobs man, maybe then you'll get my point... hrmf...
Er jævla irriterende når man møter på dritsekker som ikke vet hva ordet HØFLIGHET betyr engang...
lol, time to close this tread, ya'll all been to great help for me, thanks.

Edited by Chucklz for Language

[lockpicksteve]

Hi if you need a good wrench you can make a good one out of a allen key .very good on large padlocks.like you im new to this but what a great site you can learn so much .stick with it .just of to pick my back door

[marso]

wolt: I would not go attacking people, send them a private message it makes life alot easier for everyone. Most forums do not mind n00bs. It is when they do not appear to be listening to advice from others when people get annoyed. This forum strongly supports the idea of read all you possibly can and then start to post. I read every night for two weeks before I even picked up my pickset. Then it was another week until I started to post. Not suggesting this is the best way to learn but it is something to consider.

Madmike: Basically the norsk is roughly translated to, " annoying when man meet at shit bag who not know what the word courtesy once.."

[Mad Mick]

Laughing at the punctuation, no offence to Wolt. Can be interpreted as "You're all so nice (and shit)"

However, personal attacks without clarifying or analysing the intention, makes you look like a "twart"

[wolt]

well well, guess i gotta pipe down a bit, all in all quite fair seeing that I'm the new kid on the block.
Oh, and Marso: You actually got a english-Norwegian dictionary?
One guy translates french and now Norwegian... Quit impressive... except...
It translates like this:
"It's fu#¤ings innoying when you meet sh#t heads that dont know what the word politeness means."
*yawn* guess it's the result of 48 hours without rest...