wafer locks

[poppasmurfenfold]

hi ive been curious about wafer locks.... i can pick every one i try almost every time but i dont really know what im doing i dont know what im supposed to be feeling for i kinda just rake and feel around till it opens thi was othering me cuz this cant be the right way of picking wafer locks....
any help???

[Iceberg_Slim]

i use a ball or double ball and go up and down vertically in the keyway, it works like a charm.

[poppasmurfenfold]

well yeah thats what i use too...every time i was just wanting to know if there is a right way to do it cuz i dont wanna just do it the easy way ya know....
thanks though

[Iceberg_Slim]

that really is the easiest and fastest way to open wafer locks, its not really a tough lock at all.

[CVScam]

I damaged a wafer lock when I first started out lock picking by using too much tension. I had been practicing on a big Master padlock that took a lot of tension to bind the pins then I tried to pick a wafer lock. I was using way too much tension and one of the wafers bent so the key didn't work in it anymore. I only use nice rounded picks and light tension now.

[Iceberg_Slim]

on a scale from 1 to 10, 10 being high security. most standard wafer locks are a 2 or 1.5, its really not hard at all. even if it is double sided.

[UWSDWF]

what about a dbl-sided gm side bar?

[Jow]

surely that is no longer a standard wafer but a wafer with sidebar.....

like comparing a pin-tumbler to a biaxial

[Iceberg_Slim]

UWS dont make me rick roll you when you are not looking again.

[poppasmurfenfold]

surely that is no longer a standard wafer but a wafer with sidebar.....

like comparing a pin-tumbler to a biaxial

most cars still use standard wafer locks alot have the side bar but alot still dont

[Eyes_Only]

I found that if they came out of an older vehicle or a frequently used lock, it will open fairly easily with the right tools.

[davou]

hi ive been curious about wafer locks.... i can pick every one i try almost every time but i dont really know what im doing i dont know what im supposed to be feeling for i kinda just rake and feel around till it opens thi was othering me cuz this cant be the right way of picking wafer locks....
any help???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafer_lock

(anyone correct me if I'm wrong please)
I'm pretty sure a good way to think about a wafer lock is to consider the wafers as a whole acting as if they were the locks plug. What I mean is, the wafers all line up inside the cylinder once the key is put in place, and the individual disks align into a straight tube that makes the key able to turn. If they key isnt in, they fall below the plug and cause it to jam at the bottom, likewise if the wrong key is used, chances are they will be lifted too high, and they will jam at the top of the plug.

When your picking what you do is lift the disks until they fall into the correct position, and then by torque pressure hold them there.

[poppasmurfenfold]

thanks that helps alot

[greyman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafer_lock
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Wikipedia has a way to go by the look of this extract from their wafer lock description:

"The wafer tumbler lock is often incorrectly referred to as a disc tumbler lock, which uses an entirely differently mechanism."

The wafer lock was originally called a disc-tumbler lock and still is in some places. The writer must have been thinking about disc sidebar locks like Abloy.

As for picking, without getting advanced, if there are no antipick notches on the wafers then it should be relatively easy with, as others have said, ball/double-ball picks. A two-pronged tensioner can also help.

[lockpicker69]

have you tried the jiggler keys?they work really good for me
and hi everybody this is my first post
richard