Handcuffs

[Renotesse]

it better not be your ass

[jason]

This is a good reason why I don't buy second hand tools!!

[Renotesse]

that one actually made me laugh out loud

[kitbearuk]

[quote="Renotesse"]i aint got a clue what type mine are... but i won them at a fair... (im 16 btw) and i can open them with my hands behind my back, with the keyholes facing towards my elbows (near enough impossible..... always check beforehand....i learnt the hard way )

so im better than all of you :D j/k[/quote]


I'd love to see You Get out of a pair of Chubb Escort Handcuffs on account of they have the Chubb ava 10 Disc locking mechanism or the Medeco 710 High Security Handcuffs.
Check out Hiatts Speedcuffs
Also research the Chubb Detainer Handcuffs 3 Lever, Try to pick that Behind Your back If You think that You are the next houdini.

[lockpickroy]

I'd love to see You Get out of a pair of Chubb Escort Handcuffs on account of they have the Chubb ava 10 Disc locking mechanism or the Medeco 710 High Security Handcuffs.
Check out Hiatts Speedcuffs
Also research the Chubb Detainer Handcuffs 3 Lever, Try to pick that Behind Your back If You think that You are the next houdini.


that may be the case but peerless and smith&wession handcuffs used by law enforcement in the good old USA are easy to pick behind the back even being double locked if not double locked can be shimmed/bypassed even easer

[kitbearuk]

[quote="lockpickroy"]I'd love to see You Get out of a pair of Chubb Escort Handcuffs on account of they have the Chubb ava 10 Disc locking mechanism or the Medeco 710 High Security Handcuffs.
Check out Hiatts Speedcuffs
Also research the Chubb Detainer Handcuffs 3 Lever, Try to pick that Behind Your back If You think that You are the next houdini.


that may be the case but peerless and smith&wession handcuffs used by law enforcement in the good old USA are easy to pick behind the back even being double locked if not double locked can be shimmed/bypassed even easer[/quote]


The police in the USA are upgrading their handcuffs to the "link" type (not chain) we in the UK have had the hiatt speedcuffs for some time (1996 I think) and are considdered secure due to the thin bit entry slot and thick key center hole which hinders any entry of paper clips etc...

The american police force have a long way to go utility wise
and as I see that Your door locks have a long way to go also.

It's not the consumer that has to sort themselfs out it's the manufacturer
in the end it's the consumer that has weak security and the manufacturer has made the money they want.

The European locks are far superior in quality and design.

I feel sorry for You guys because You have to put up with the crap that they put on the shelfs.

You do have some good locks but they are rare.

As standard in England we have a mortice Lever lock and a rim lock on external doors and they have to conform to British standards
which are known to be stringent.



happy picking

[marso]

But this standard was put in place by insurance companies because your crime rate was so high. Is this a bragging point?

[David_Parker]

kitbearuk Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:54 am Post subject
The american police force have a long way to go utility wise
and as I see that Your door locks have a long way to go also. I feel sorry for You guys because You have to put up with the crap that they put on the shelfs.

Whats wrong with todays door locks? I'd say there is a large number of average house locks that put up a beating. When you say 'american locks' are you referring to locks sold in America? Or those made by Americans for Americans approved by Americans? Because the argument can go in two different tangents on either.

Our cops have pretty good equipment. Yeah they and moan, but we're not exactly flooded with blood due to faulty gear. Quick slight tangent: I heard a report on NPR about British troops dying due to the lack of standard issue kevlar. Troops trading with American troops for new if not used kevlar. But I may be blowing the story way out of wack. Memory is low because I was chatting to someone at the time, so please clarify.


-Dave.

[David_Parker]

and I have got to start previewing my posts.

-Dave.

[mbell]

The American - English argument could go on and on.

The English chose to make the lever lock better and the Americans chose the pin tumbler mechanism. All is good so long as crime levels are low.

[Absinthe]

Is this point even germane? If someone gts burgled in either the US or UK how often is it due to the lock being picked rather than either an unauthroized key copy or a dore not locked or a brick through the window?

[ReverseLogic]

absinthe makes a very good point.

[kitbearuk]

[quote="Absinthe"]Is this point even germane? If someone gts burgled in either the US or UK how often is it due to the lock being picked rather than either an unauthroized key copy or a dore not locked or a brick through the window?[/quote]


I am just simply mentioning that we have as standard that buildings have to conform to british standards requirement or they cannot get insured,
And when I say American locks are not of such quality I don't mean all lock company's, as in all country's around the world You are bound to have a crap manufacturer now and then.

For example:
Yale
S&G
Medeco

Crap locks: Kwikset
Schlage

Enough of all that, All that really matters is if You think You have done enough to secure Your property, That's good enough.
Absinthe makes a good point, Who picks locks to break in?
Not many.

It's been over Six Years since I was over there so thing may have changed a lot in that time.

[kitbearuk]

[quote="marso"]But this standard was put in place by insurance companies because your crime rate was so high. Is this a bragging point?[/quote]

The crime rate has dropped since the mid 1800's
Loaf of bread anyone?
LOL

[David_Parker]

Schlage makes a decent brand of lock. Their B series put up a beating. Kwickset: yeah. For the majority, lack in the world of tough.


-Dave.