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HELP for NOOB

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HELP for NOOB

Postby secretoff » 12 Jul 2007 2:44

I am new to lock picking and a am having a realy hard time. I have - hade a home made lockpick buth I breaked it. I just have a non electrical file and metal cuting scissors. I have read all gides and andorstud how it works but I tray and tray and nothing. What to do? Whit what to practise and what to use? help. plz.
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Postby nekret » 12 Jul 2007 3:01

1. Buy a cheap pickset to get started with. As for which one specifically, I can't tall you as you haven't filled in your location.

2. Get a cheap low quality padlock or deadbolt to practice on. Master #3s or kwiksets are a good choice in the US.

3. Try doing some of the learn lockpicking exercises that are stickies
viewtopic.php?t=10677
viewtopic.php?t=19741

4. Finally do not use chatroom abbreviations on this site, its kind of a best practices thing around here.
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Postby Marco » 12 Jul 2007 3:11

Firstly, welcome to the site!

What lock are you trying to pick? It could be that the lock you are trying to pick is FAR too advanced for a beginner. If you do not know the make and model then post a picture.

The first link that nekret posted is a fantastic excercise which i think you should spend a lot of time on. It helps you recognise how pins feel when they are binding, set, overset etc. The more time you spend going through that excercise, the faster you will progress.

I'll give you one more link which will ensure that you go far with this hobby:
http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=19626.
Read through EVERY point in there. Actually i suggest you even read it twice just to be sure.

Good luck!
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Postby Marco » 12 Jul 2007 3:12

Firstly, welcome to the site!

What lock are you trying to pick? It could be that the lock you are trying to pick is FAR too advanced for a beginner. If you do not know the make and model then post a picture.

The first link that nekret posted is a fantastic excercise which i think you should spend a lot of time on. It helps you recognise how pins feel when they are binding, set, overset etc. The more time you spend going through that excercise, the faster you will progress.

I'll give you one more link which will ensure that you go far with this hobby:
http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=19626.
Read through EVERY point in there. Actually i suggest you even read it twice just to be sure.

Good luck!
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Postby thubanpete » 12 Jul 2007 9:56

Welcome secetoff! :D

The links Marco & nekret have posted are excellent places to start with when learning.

As for the lock picks, I'd suggest buying a set of lock picks and practicing with those first before moving on to making your own set. The reason I suggest this is so you can experiment with the various styles of picks and tension wrenches that are available and find the types you like the best (and suit the way you pick). Pick sets that I've heard recomended are http://www.lockpickshop.com/MPXS-08.html and http://www.lockpickshop.com/MPXS-11.html. These two sets are relatively inexpensive and have a good assortment of picks, which make them a prime choice for those that need picks but don't need the larger sets.


Again, welcome, and best of luck picking!

-ThubanPete
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Postby secretoff » 12 Jul 2007 13:22

THANK you all. I PICKED MY FIRST LOCK!!!! :D and whit my own two picks that i have made.

How i made lock picks?
I heated a part of a hacksow and the metal became eazyer to worck with non electrical tools.
my first pick whos a half dimond it worked perficly but i have brocken it :(
but i made it into a hook and it works perfecly :D
the guydes helped

special thanks to :
nekret
Marco
thubanpete

ps.: i still dont understand what i did wrong before :)
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Postby Rodfather23 » 12 Jul 2007 13:38

it probably was easier to break if you did not temper it properly. I usually stay away from heating most of the time it ends up too soft and bends on me easily. I did have a good bit of luck though making kaotik's auto tensioner though. I think shrub talks about the proper way to temper your metal in some thread......you might try searching for that.





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Postby secretoff » 12 Jul 2007 13:50

i think it whos not the tempering. it whos to fin :oops: I got the tempering skils and i made my tools a litle flexible but my metal cuting scizors are LOL! and there are nor metal cuting scizors :oops: but they cut enaught.
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Postby davou » 12 Jul 2007 13:54

secretoff wrote:i think it whos not the tempering. it whos to fin :oops: I got the tempering skils and i made my tools a litle flexible but my metal cuting scizors are LOL! and there are nor metal cuting scizors :oops: but they cut enaught.


I'd imagine that metal cutting shears would leave a rather rough edge... Id advise against using them since they hard and rough edges could damage the locks your picking.
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Postby secretoff » 12 Jul 2007 14:01

YOUI DID NOT UNDERSTAND. I grind off thos edges whit a non elecrical grinder.

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Postby secretoff » 12 Jul 2007 14:03

[quote="secretoff"]YOUI DID NOT UNDERSTAND. I grind off thos edges whit a non elecrical grinder.
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Postby cjames73 » 12 Jul 2007 14:05

secretoff wrote:YOUI DID NOT UNDERSTAND.

ok ok, stop shouting!
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Postby secretoff » 12 Jul 2007 14:08

:oops: :D
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Postby secretoff » 12 Jul 2007 14:08

:oops: :D
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Postby nekret » 12 Jul 2007 14:10

secretoff, now that we now you are in Europe, you should probably realize that standard US picks will be a little large for most locks. I'd strongly urge you to get a small set of slimline picks for learning.
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