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by Afisch » 13 Jun 2007 15:15
Ah ok thanks, its been a while since i looked through all of the sets.
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by UWSDWF » 13 Jun 2007 15:16
Afisch wrote:Aww i was slow and vastly outdone, silly internet and my lack of MSPaint skills.

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by GutterClown » 19 Jul 2007 7:40
Matt-the-rat wrote:Has anyone got the 74 piece lock pick set by Southern Ordinate. It is very expensive but i am tempted to buyit. Do you find yourself using all of the picks, or is it better buying a smaller set?
1x double ball pick
1x short hook
1x tention tool
1x double sided tention tweasers
that'll do it. nothing else is needed. that's your basic kit, anything more than that is a luxury, and not essential.
buy those as individual picks, not a set. if you *need* to, get a case as an extra.
then add picks as you want\need them.
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by UWSDWF » 19 Jul 2007 10:16
uhh no......
the only thing I use the ball for is wafer locks and picking my ear (works really well)
I use an assorment of like 4 different hooks
5 different tension tools
2 or 3 different rakes
thats a basic kit and thats what a person needs...
Gutter... your list would leave a picker wanting I say at the very least the parts found in a southord 14pcs set (just the different parts the manuf does not matter) is minimum
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by freakparade3 » 19 Jul 2007 10:32
Matt, the 74 piece set will have many duplicate picks. You are not getting 74 different ones. I have a few hundred picks and use about 4 on a regular basis. As for gutterclown, saying only one tension tool is needed is insane. The proper tension tool is vital for picking. Poll the more experienced members here and I bet you will find they will say a large selection of tension tools is way more important than a large selection of picks.
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by raimundo » 20 Jul 2007 7:19
tension is the neglected area, there are several types of tensors, but there definately need to be more, I am waiting for someone to find the best arraingment for a tension torque wrench, which will indicate different amounts of pressure. this is because some locks will open with a light tension and be completely impossible with heavy tension. also some kind of intermittent pressure tensor, that kicks and releases in a fast way would be very helpful.
you need at least three different widths of the standard tension blade, but these could be all on one piece of metal, such as a piece of hacksaw blade, cut to a T with the yardarm tilted up a bit on both sides, this would be for keeping the handle away from the flat surface the lock is mounted on, and the other end could be two more widths of tensor. The wishbone tensor is also necessary because tensor fit can be a problem, in some locks the wishbone will make it pick in a way that the straight blade will not. straight blade tension will sometimes create a force that opposes the plug to the cylinder wall and does not induce rotation in the plug, the wishbone does not do this.
beyond this, a hook a halfdiamond, and a rake are then next kit you need,
if you like a lot of picks, there are doublesided ones, and picks made for special types of locks, such as the dimple locks, etc
then there are the very specific picks made for tubular locks, etc.
get the picks that are for the locks you are picking.
the next varient is size, you will notice that keys come in different sizes, and picks should too.
if you learn to make picks, you can make what you need for the situation
buying the large sets means you just have a lot more pieces to count up every time you take them out. some of the designs are useless
I for one do not find the ball pick to be useful because it impinges on the pin or disc that is beside the one you are picking, there is nothing it can do that I cannot do quicker with a halfdiamond.
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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