Locks required (NOT picks !) pickproof if possible :-)

[bigad]

Hi everyone.

I need some locks supplied to me so i can fit them for a friend, but I'm not having much luck online. I've called a couple of local locksmiths but they either dont have the ones I want, or want to supply and fit at a price.

Can anyone suggest a supplier (or supply!).

My research has left me in the position where I'd like to go for EVVA 3ks or DPS (depending on cost). These seem to be recommended as difficult to pick etc.


The requirements (all euro profile double cylinders;

Front Door
Brass furniture,
70mm overall length, 35 inner, 35 outer. (Ideally outer could reduce to 33 or 34mm, inner could go down to 34.)

Exterior conservatory door
White - so either colour
85mm overall length, 40 inner, 45 outer. (outer length perfect, inner length could reduce to 39)

Interior conservatory door
White - so either colour
80mm overall length, 45 inner, 35 outer (outer is currently <35, and indented into door handle)

The problem with the EVVA lengths is that they start at 31mm and increase in 5mm increments..... the front door in particular doesnt seem to fit their size options without having an excessively long cylinder protruding, and potentially compromising the security of the lock.

Can anyone help?????

[UWSDWF]

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There are many lock supply companies both online and at hardware stores...

[jamesphilhulk2]

well for starters your in the wrong section

[UWSDWF]

oh and pick proof doesn't exist

[bluestar]

oh and pick proof doesn't exist

yeah, but try to prove that with a 3KS...

[UWSDWF]

don't need to... if it's mechanically operated then it is possible to pick.... plain and simple

[bluestar]

why can't a mechanically operated lock be pickproof (except for the illusional attack of trying all possible keys)?

[freakparade3]

why can't a mechanically operated lock be pickproof (except for the illusional attack of trying all possible keys)?

Any time a new lock comes out someone is right behind creating a tool to open it.

[UWSDWF]

because of inherent flaw in all manufacturing will always leave certain tolerances and those tolerances can be exploited with skill.

Given time, knowledge, skill, tools and some luck any mechanical lock can be opened.

[zeke79]

oh and pick proof doesn't exist

yeah, but try to prove that with a 3KS...

I've seen it done.

[bluestar]

I've seen it done.

An Evva 3KS with all 12 sliders without knowledge of the key? In what time? (Not that I don't believe you, I'm just curious )

[zeke79]

Exactly. Time was roughly 5-10 minutes while explaining the process.

[bluestar]

Exactly. Time was roughly 5-10 minutes while explaining the process.

5-10 minutes without knowing the key? With a lock out of the box? (To clarify: We're talking about picking, not using the decoder?)

[UWSDWF]

the decoder? what decoder?

[zeke79]

Exactly. Time was roughly 5-10 minutes while explaining the process.

5-10 minutes without knowing the key? With a lock out of the box? (To clarify: We're talking about picking, not using the decoder?)

This discussion is getting a bit out of line for open forums discussion. It was a decoder though yes, but it did also open the lock.