Felony...

[Biaxial Ranger]

Sounds like somebody needs knocked off their high horse to me...

[mrdan]

Mrdan, ..., i could start quoteing the rules about questioning a mods decision or what hes said but i wont, shame as youve probalby been waiting for a post like this for ages, sorry to piss on your fire,...

No, I have not been waiting for this. I am just one who has found it suprizing that someone that I respect and think so highly of would so blatantly break the rules and do so with such an attitude.

As for questioning a mods descision, I thought that rule applied to questioning the mods decisions about the board (deleting or editing posts or users and the like) which has not been made in this case not descisions to impune ones character.

I myself DO NOT beleive that once a criminal allways a criminal. There is ALWAYS a chance for repentance. I do not mean that he should get to not be punished. That would not be just. I will admit that I do not know this guy from Adam and he could be trying to swindle us all. But I truly do NOT believe for one minute that everyone that breaks rules or laws will allways break the rules or laws. When I was a young lad I thew rocks at a window. I got in trouble and had to pay the piper. I have learned my lesson and I don't go around breaking stuff anymore. I am just saying that it is not for you or I or anyone else to say where his heart truly lies. (Not my business) Maybe you are taking such a harsh position so that John-Q-public sees that there is no tolerance for criminals. I whole hartedly believe that justice should be met with him. But I should hope that he learns from his mistake and changes his path before he ends up dead or homeless without someone who gives a rats @#* about him.

I did not intend to turn this into a big deal. Just a freindly reminder as it seemed a bit out of character for you. That is all. Nothing more. No fire or what-ever it is you think youv'e pissed on. Now I hope you don't vaporize me for daring to speak truth to a mod. (Please understand that I do so with the utmost of respect and as a friend) You have to admit though that to let you say that he is a scumbag and then have you telling people not to name call just seems, well... How else can it look. Now if you were deleting his post or shuting him down or locking the thread, I would not have thought anything of it. But that rule DOES NOT APPLY HERE!!! Unless of course you declare it to be so. please say so and I will most humbly apologize and go back to my business.

[Shrub]

Sounds like somebody needs knocked off their high horse to me...

Is that aimed at me?
If so then i shall address it upon your reply,



Mrdan,

I believe a few misguided mistakes is one thing but a crime spree is another,

You me and most other honest people that get into trouble have to pay the piper but this kid hasnt, he got caught for his latest crime and delt with then, his crime spree before that goes un-punnished and until hes willing to own up to those hes still a criminal,

Criminals, especially those that pray on the vunrable (they didnt have adequate locks so were vunrable) are scumbags, 'a scumbag' can also used as a friendly joke so not as harsh as first made out i have many many more words at my disposal that i could use but havent,

My views on crinimals is no secret,

Maybe you are taking such a harsh position so that John-Q-public sees that there is no tolerance for criminals.

And there you have it, someone that finally apprechiates that side of a lot of my posts, if we dont teach these kids no-one else will, its obvious their parents havent made any effort,

When i was a normal member i saw a mod to be unarguable with on any matter that involved the site, its members or its posts in anyway, the rule of not gogin against a mod i believe is workable in any of those instances, you are right in that opinion is not covered by that but i was merely trying to prove the point that i am well aware of the rules and know full well what im doing when i call this kid out, i do not make a habbit of name calling by your own admission,

[Raccoon]

Shrub, I think there's a communication barrier that may be causing all of this grief.

The kid DID get caught and DID get punished. You keep repeating that he got away scott-free and should face his punishment. But he did.

His only comment was that he was seeking to have his conviction expunged and his juvenile record sealed. These are things people do regularly, especially if they served their punishment and can prove to the courts that they have stayed on the straight and narrow. It allows someone's dark past to be hidden from public view, allowing them to continue on with life and passing background checks.

I really can't tell why you've slammed him so hard.

[donjon]

I think what Shrub is saying is that he got punished for the crime he got caught doing, but not for the crimes he commited before he got caught.

[mrdan]

Sounds like somebody needs knocked off their high horse to me...

Is that aimed at me?
If so then i shall address it upon your reply,



Mrdan,

I believe a few misguided mistakes is one thing but a crime spree is another,

You me and most other honest people that get into trouble have to pay the piper but this kid hasnt, he got caught for his latest crime and delt with then, his crime spree before that goes un-punnished and until hes willing to own up to those hes still a criminal,

Criminals, especially those that pray on the vunrable (they didnt have adequate locks so were vunrable) are scumbags, 'a scumbag' can also used as a friendly joke so not as harsh as first made out i have many many more words at my disposal that i could use but havent,

My views on crinimals is no secret,

Maybe you are taking such a harsh position so that John-Q-public sees that there is no tolerance for criminals.

And there you have it, someone that finally apprechiates that side of a lot of my posts, if we dont teach these kids no-one else will, its obvious their parents havent made any effort,

When i was a normal member i saw a mod to be unarguable with on any matter that involved the site, its members or its posts in anyway, the rule of not gogin against a mod i believe is workable in any of those instances, you are right in that opinion is not covered by that but i was merely trying to prove the point that i am well aware of the rules and know full well what im doing when i call this kid out, i do not make a habbit of name calling by your own admission,

Okay, I do feel better about it now as I understand that I misunderstood your reaction...

[Raccoon]

Perhaps. But if everyone were convicted for every crime they'd ever committed, we'd be living in one gigantic Australian prison.

Hmm. I'd kinda like that.


In my humble opinion, and while I do not advocate criminal behavior nor condone actions that might be criminal simply because noone's watching, but most laws ARE written in such a way to only punish those who are caught. And for good reason. Though theft or larceny are pretty deplorable offenses, but I'm still going to choose freedom and civil liberty and the Constitution, over trying to tweezer every offense ever committed and ever to-be committed into a prison sentence. I'd rather individuals fight harder to actively protect themselves than rely on the assumed safety of their rabbit hutch. /rant

Though, bragging about getting away with crime is down-right tacky.

[Shrub]

Yes thanks donjon,

The issue isnt that hes done some time for a crime its the other crime he didnt get done for,

It wasnt the case of i had a bad week and trashed a few things, crashed my car, stole some beers and broke into a shed to drink them, it was somthing differant,

Lets look at what we know,

Hes already been here and lied about his status,

He had a 2 year crime spree of stealing cars and who knows what else until 2 years down the line he got caught doing over a lockup or factory or somthing,

He has a commercial robbery on his record, no mention of a string of burgularies etc just that one that he got caught for,

Wheres the 2 years of stolen cars gone? wheres the 'lost' property? wheres the retribution the people who lived in fear for maybe only just a hort period maybe still to this day but in fear because their space had been invaded and their property stolen not to be replaced maybe? maybe impossable to replace, an item that was so sentimental this theif showed it the respect he knew and pawned it at best at worst threw it in the canal,

You ask me to lighten up on people like this? i spend every working day helping people protect themselves agaisnt people like this,

You all may think i go over the top on little things like this but thats who i am, i dont like theives, theives that have served their time for the crime they have commited i can make amends with but not people who leave others in the limbo of wondering if they will see their car again or their grandfathers watch etc, not people who sit in the court and instead of owning up to other offenses and having them taken into consideration if for nothing else but for the deceny to clear unsolved crime up and maybe help some elderly people move on with their loss,

I do go over the top i agree and dont deny it, i often regret what ive said or done but each night i sleep soundly as i sort my differances out as each day comes but you will never get me to appreciate the same air theives who walk free from crime they have committed breethe, i say what i think and have certain subjects i feel strongly about, animal cruelty is the first and people getting away with theft or vandleisum (sp) the second that regulary come up on this site with the most part me staying very calm,

I admit the OP could have been a very unfortunate and badly worded post and that i/we could have taken things way wrong but the evidence at time of posting doesnt suggest anything else,

I guess 1 murder is the same as 2, right? if 400 strangers were to die if you didnt kill your mother who would you save?

[lunchb0x]

Perhaps. But if everyone were convicted for every crime they'd ever committed, we'd be living in one gigantic Australian prison.

Hmm. I'd kinda like that.

you do know that only a small amount of the australian settelers where convicts right