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Locks required (NOT picks !) pickproof if possible :-)

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Postby bluestar » 20 Jul 2007 13:58

zeke79 wrote:This discussion is getting a bit out of line for open forums discussion.

Sorry :( Didn't mean to.
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Postby zeke79 » 20 Jul 2007 14:19

Just as much my fault as it is yours :wink: .
For the best book out there on high security locks and their operation, take a look at amazon.com for High-Security Mechanical Locks An Encyclopedic Reference. Written by our very own site member Greyman! A true 5 Star read!!
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Postby bluestar » 20 Jul 2007 14:46

ok :)
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Postby Afisch » 21 Jul 2007 2:50

Have you considered the abloy range? While not pick proof, they are pick resistant and bump proof so might be worth checking out for use on the furneture.
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Postby Afisch » 21 Jul 2007 2:55

Wow, stupid reply by me, you said Euro locks...and the brass furniture was refering to the door I presume, err oh well.
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Postby Jaakko » 21 Jul 2007 3:12

Abloy is available in Euro locks also, so I'll suggest the same :)
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Postby bluestar » 21 Jul 2007 5:35

Abloy Protec would be a possible choose to, but they are a) not cheap and b) not available in all european countries (Assa Abloy strategy, perhaps to protect their other high-security brands like Ikon and Keso), for example Germany, Swiss or Austria (as far as i know, left aside some rare imported exemplars).

With Europrofile cylinders, always use a protective fitting with an escutcheon. Most models have some tolerance towards the cylinder length, so this should work. But if in doubt, ask a locksmith.

If you really need a high-security cylinder, it's perhaps worth considering a steel version (both Abloy Protec and Evva 3KS are available with an all-steel cylinder) - it's a bit better against the not-so-surreptitious entry attempts.

Of course all these cylinders have their prices, so you have to consider wether you really need a cylinder with picking and copy protection that high. But that heavily depends on your background.

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Postby toomush2drink » 23 Jul 2007 15:12

Its all totally pointless when the main method of entry at the moment is using emergency escape glass hammers.

Oh and ive yet to meet anyone who can open the latest banham cylinders by picking.The design means setting a pin sets its opposite pin in the wrong position.
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Postby bluestar » 23 Jul 2007 17:21

Against these methods help windows with better glass (EN 1627-1630). Security is always a system - An Abloy Protec together with an Kaba X-09 helps not very much on a thin glass door, even less if the window besides the door is open....
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