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Picks vs Bumps vs Automatic

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Picks vs Bumps vs Automatic

Postby cipher » 9 Aug 2007 1:27

This forum is full of people with significant locksmith experience, so I'm sure my question can be easily answered:

Picks vs Bumps vs Automatic; each have pros and cons, but in terms of flexability is there one that completely covers the bases? Having one, and never (rarely) really needing the rest? The closest you can get to the universal remote/locksmith's mini workshop. Thanks.
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Postby tmaxx258 » 9 Aug 2007 1:31

I would say manual lock picks.
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Postby poppasmurfenfold » 9 Aug 2007 2:25

As for manual picks, thats whats for me because I, like many others on this site, consider myself a hobby picker. They just keep me interested. As for bump keys, I made one once but it got boring real quick. I just dont enjoy sitting and around beating on a key with a screwdriver. And for electrics, Ive never used one but i dont really want to because they dont require any skill, which means you dont learn and develop your skills, you just hold it there and press the button.
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Postby poppasmurfenfold » 9 Aug 2007 2:27

As for manual picks, thats whats for me because I, like many others on this site, consider myself a hobby picker. They just keep me interested. As for bump keys, I made one once but it got boring real quick. I just dont enjoy sitting and around beating on a key with a screwdriver. And for electrics, Ive never used one but i dont really want to because they dont require any skill, which means you dont learn and develop your skills, you just hold it there and press the button.
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Postby poppasmurfenfold » 9 Aug 2007 2:29

As for manual picks, thats whats for me because I, like many others on this site, consider myself a hobby picker. They just keep me interested. As for bump keys, I made one once but it got boring real quick. I just dont enjoy sitting and around beating on a key with a screwdriver. And for electrics, Ive never used one but i dont really want to because they dont require any skill, which means you dont learn and develop your skills, you just hold it there and press the button.
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Postby poppasmurfenfold » 9 Aug 2007 2:43

god my computer sucks can some please delete a couple of those posts sorry
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Postby cipher » 9 Aug 2007 2:51

So, as a locksmith developing a compact workshop to open anything, you'd go with all manual picks?
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Postby tmaxx258 » 9 Aug 2007 3:05

Manual picks are more virsitile,rather than bump keys and a electric pick gun.Manual picks requires you to learn how a lock works,and they increase your skills.

Bumpkeys can open most locks but requiers less skill.

electric pick guns i dont know much about but i heard that they requiers less skill just like the bump key.

1 question i have been wondereing for a while,
Can manual lock picks open any lock?
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Postby cipher » 9 Aug 2007 3:14

Can manual lock picks open any lock?
I'm also curious.

I don't care about skill, unless e.g. a skilled lock picker uses a manual for 10mins while a bump key takes 2 seconds.

Can some of you list pros and cons in greater detail?
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Postby lunchb0x » 9 Aug 2007 3:18

manual lockpicks would be able to open most locks, pepends on what type of lock such as Bilock, Medico, Abloy ect, and mostly your skill

for work I use my pick gun (not an electic one) 99% of the time and hand picks if i have too but because I dont pick much anymore im not that good with them

Electric pick guns can destroy a lock very quickly so I dont think its a good idea to use them, and as for bump keys I dont use them at all

over all I prefer hand picking locks and now im starting to do it agan when I have nothing to do and prefer it over my pick gun
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Postby cipher » 9 Aug 2007 3:33

Do you run into locks that your pickgun doesn't work on? Aproximately how many don't work, and which ones don't work with a pick gun?
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Postby lunchb0x » 9 Aug 2007 4:02

yeh I do get locks that my pick guns wont work on, and some of them might be easy to hand pick, or some impossable, but my hand picking skills are a bit rusty, if your picking locks as a hobby dont get a pick gun, it takes the fun out of it and doesnt need as much skill.

its probably aroud 1 in 20 times that the pick gun wont work and that mostly is because the lock is in upside down
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Postby cipher » 9 Aug 2007 4:41

Isn't that the same for bumping? I tried to bump a couple of the locks in my house, and realized they were cheap upside down locks - and I wasn't able to bump them...
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Postby UWSDWF » 9 Aug 2007 4:44

cipher wrote:Isn't that the same for bumping? I tried to bump a couple of the locks in my house, and realized they were cheap upside down locks - and I wasn't able to bump them...

what in <diety>'s name are you on about?
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Postby lunchb0x » 9 Aug 2007 5:14

i think he means the same between bumping and a pick gun, and yes the way it open locks are the same, i dont use bump keys but they would be harder to use than a pick gun
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