glued locks

[cipher]

How do locksmiths usually bypass and repair locks that are glued shut? Thanks.

[UWSDWF]

with solvent

[Shrub]

No bypass discussion in the open forums,

A lot now use mini blow torches but thats quite irresponcible as super glue gives off cyanide gas when burnt,

[cipher]

The subversive speech patterns found in this forum are a bit irritating. Picking is a means of bypassing - from now on there will be no discussion of picking locks on these forums!

[Shrub]

Cipher, if you dont like the rules of the site then leave,

Bypassing is very clear as to what it is,

Picking is very clear as to what it is,

Picking is not bypassing it is simulating,

Bypasing means to bypass the locking mechs and picking is manipulating the mechs,

I hope we dont need to have this conversation in private,

[UWSDWF]

*UWSDWF sits in the corner quietly smiling.... waiting.....

[Dragunov-21]

Can't help you with bypassing, but using a pipette and some acetone (nail polish remover) might clear the lock enough to pick/use the key.

[cipher]

Drilling, cutting, sawing, exploding, picking (electric and manual), bumping, and dissolving are all SUBCATAGORIES of the more general term BYPASSING when the subject is LOCKS.

I do not believe it says in the forum rules that you have to list out ever possible response before it is said. Of my short list, picking, bumping, and in this thread dissolving, are regular subjects on this forum. No Oxford English doctor would be particular about word choice in an instance like this.

But surely this vendetta will diminish into the terms of "my forum; my rules - speak my vernacular on my pages" authoritative dictation...


Now if we could only get back on topic, and put our off topic mentalities aside.

[UWSDWF]

Please note the site rules:

12. No public discussion or threads of moderators/staff decisions. Public discussion of a moderators action will get you banned.

19. Discussion of topics deemed "advanced" are reserved for the advanced forums. These topics include bypass of high security locks, safe lock manipulation, advanced pick tools, and automotive bypass & picking discussion.

Drilling, cutting, sawing, exploding, picking (electric and manual), bumping, and dissolving are all SUBCATAGORIES of the more general term BYPASSING when the subject is LOCKS.

Picking is the art of manipulating the pins to set simulate the effect of an appropriate key being used.

Bypassing is using a flaw in design (intentional or not) to open the lock with out direct manipulation described above.

With that in mind argue all you want... try to redefine terminology that is accepted by locksmiths, hobbiest and the security community through out the world, you will still be wrong.

to answer your initial question...

SOLVENT AND THEN PICK IT

[JackNco]

As has already been said a bypass is a way to BYPASS the lock its self, usually a flaw in the hardware that the lock operates although there are some exceptions. but when it boils down to it no one is going to help you on bypass techniques as its against the forum rules.

Bypass techniques are discussed freely in the advanced sections but you generally have to get on with the mods to get access to these sections not argue the toss with them over a question that will not get answered what ever the outcome of the argument.

And don't take that as me taking sides, take it as advice as how you should conduct your self and as how to best get on in this community.

As for using the OXFORD ENGLISH dictionary as an example when you live in Illinois.... well come one now. thats no way to win an argument.

John

[cipher]

Thanks to those of you that helped, and the rest of you are way too up tight. I will not continue to argue over a single word or description; I had good reason to make that comparison.

And all of this because I asked about glued locks in a locksmith's forum.

This thread is finished.

[UWSDWF]

it's finished?... then how am I posting right now?


let's see... the following definitions are accredited to:
LOCKSMITH

Dictionary

Copyright ã , 1982 by the ALOA Sponsored National Task Group for Certified Training Programs, Master Keying Study Group
Copyright ã , 1983 by the ALOA Sponsored National Task Group for Certified Training Programs, Master Keying Study Group
Revised June, 1984
Copyright ã , 1996 by the Lock Industry Standards and Training Council, Master Keying Study Group
Copyright ã , 1997 by the Lock Industry Standards and Training Council
Copyright ã , 2000 by the Lock Industry Standards and Training Council
Copyright ã , 2001 by the Lock Industry Standards and Training Council
Copyright ã , 2002 by the Lock Industry Standards and Training Council
Copyright ã , 2003 by the Lock Industry Standards and Training Council
Copyright ã , 2004 by the Lock Industry Standards and Training Council
Copyright ã , 2005 by the Lock Industry Standards and Training Council
Copyright ã , 2006 by the Lock Industry Standards and Training Council

by-pass tool
n. a device that neutralizes the security of a locking device, or its application hardware, often taking advantage of a design weakness

pick
n. 1. a tool or instrument, other than the specifically designed key, made for the purpose of manipulating tumblers in a lock or cylinder into the locked or unlocked position through the keyway, without obvious damage. 2. v. to manipulate tumblers in a keyed lock mechanism through the keyway, without obvious damage, by means other than the specifically designed key


and who the <expletive deleted> are you to make a new definiton to this industry and community?

[poppasmurfenfold]

Im definitely not trying to piss anyone off but since we're on the subject are auto jigglers considered bypass tools? I know bypassing isnt talked about in public forums but im not in the advanced forums and this is simply a vocabulary question.

[UWSDWF]

no they aren't a bypass tool

[poppasmurfenfold]

Ok thanks, that was one of those things that gets into your head and makes you think real hard. I had to ask.