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.115 diameter pins

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.115 diameter pins

Postby absynthe » 10 Aug 2007 23:27

I am about to buy one of those huge sets of pins. I am getting the serrated and spool set by LAB. I'm no locksmith so I was wondering how standard .115 is.

It seems like it is a pretty standard pin size. Anyone know what pin tumbler locks do not accept .115 diameter?
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Postby cyrus104 » 10 Aug 2007 23:45

I checked the LAB website which had the information on it, at the very bottom.
http://www.lab-lockpins.com/htm/universal_kits.html

I should have mine here on monday or tuesday.
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Postby absynthe » 10 Aug 2007 23:51

Where did you see the list of manufacturers that use .115? At the bottom I saw a list of trademarks. The security pin set entry doesn't really say which locks.. only that it fits ones that use .115
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Postby cyrus104 » 10 Aug 2007 23:57

Ya that was my bad, sorry.
If you are creative when you look for that info, then you can find it in a round about way.
I looked here, http://www.lab-lockpins.com/htm/springs.html .
All of the springs are for the 115. Even though some of the locks use different size springs they all manufacture 115 locks.
I don't know of a list that has model numbers on it.

Might be nice to make one.
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Postby absynthe » 11 Aug 2007 0:03

Yeah... I was noticing a trend of .115 there. I didn't think to look at the springs specifically. Looks like a pretty far guess that most US locks that I would buy would have .115.
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Postby cyrus104 » 11 Aug 2007 0:05

I have a couple that I think should but I am not sure about so I am going to use a caliper on them.
I think some of my sfic are different size pins but I have never checked.

Hopefully that helps, I see a couple companies that makes locks with different sizes.
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Postby absynthe » 11 Aug 2007 0:36

Thanks buddy..

It will be nice to have a good set of security pins. I am also thinking about getting a refill kit for the .003 set. I found a place that has pretty good prices.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 11 Aug 2007 0:57

That security pinning kit is awesome. Load them up in a 6 pin mortise cylinder, completely disregard MACS, make all but one or two of the pins stacks a combination of spooled and serrated and you got a great practice lock there.
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Postby absynthe » 11 Aug 2007 1:04

Yep... I am pretty excited. I'm also going with the .005 refill kit for normal pins so I think I could set up any kind of configuration I wanted. All I will need with the pin kits is a couple packs of the springs and go get myself a good set of cylinders and I will be set.
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Postby cyrus104 » 11 Aug 2007 8:04

Where are you ordering the replacement pack and the springs from. No where in my area will sell those and I wasn't able to find them online.
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Pin diameters

Postby Raymond » 11 Aug 2007 23:52

99.99% of all US locks use the standard .115 diameter. However some cheap, low class imported mortise cylinders use pins about .112.
SFIC, Best, Falcon, Arrow, etc. use .110
Old Chrysler products used .100.
Old Yale & Ilco & National used small pin of about .095.
Old Yale sectional uses .125.
This is all I can think of right now.
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Postby absynthe » 12 Aug 2007 1:20

Thanks for the reply. I do see other pin sizes on LAB's site. But I guess for my purposes (practice) I would just stay away from cylinders that are weird.

It is pretty nice of the lock companies to get along and agree to use a standard size. Most industries would pick completely different sizes so that you stick with them and make it a pain to get parts from others.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 12 Aug 2007 11:05

cyrus104 wrote:Where are you ordering the replacement pack and the springs from. No where in my area will sell those and I wasn't able to find them online.


locksmithtoolandsupply.com carries extra springs and pins.
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Postby cyrus104 » 12 Aug 2007 11:08

Thanks for the info on the springs.
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