Beginner with a few questions

[Technologic]

Today is my first day trying lock picking. I ordered a 3 wrenches, an "S" rake, a short hook tool and a small half diamond pick about 3 days ago and they arrived this morning. I went to the locksmiths shop and I talk to him for a bit about a good practice lock, and I ended up with a kwikset cylinder. He also gave me a free plug follower to help me remove the pins, and he showed me how to do it.

This is where the problems started. I lost track of which pin went where because I didn't know enough to take them out one by one. But now I have re assembled the lock a couple of times, and it now functions normally other than a few out of place clicking noises which could be caused by one of the springs being bent.

My question is, how do I know if the pins are in the right place? I picked 1, 2, and 3 pins successfully after reassembling the lock to certain degrees and am working on 5. However, I'm not sure if this sucess is only do to a few of the pins being out of place and only one actually needing picking. Anyone got any ideas?

[UWSDWF]

pins with round bottoms are bottom pin and the flat ones are driver pins and placement of bottom pins doesn't matter if your picking

[Kaotik]

The spring(s) being bent wouldn't make a noticable clicking noise or if any at all, so I don't think that is your problem.

Try making sure you don't have the key-pins (bottom pins) where the driver pins should be or the other way around (vice versa).

[Technologic]

You guys were right, I had my pins mixed up but now it's fixed. Thanks for the help.

[questions]

its all part of the learning experience.

[maintenanceguy]

its all part of the learning experience.

We need more of that helpful, understanding attitude around here.

I expected the poor guy to be blasted by 8 people for not using the search function or asking a question in violation of rule 48.7-C sub section J.

[Eyes_Only]

What kind of lock is it? If it is a Kwikset lock it can be hard for a beginner to tell the difference betweeen the top pins and bottom pins.

[Oliwerko]

We need more of that helpful, understanding attitude around here.

I expected the poor guy to be blasted by 8 people for not using the search function or asking a question in violation of rule 48.7-C sub section J.

Do you know why these people get blasted ? Because when they just don't search and ask right away without bothering reading any FAQ or something similar, just because they are lazy to do it, they deserve to get blasted. When everyone is going to directly ask, we'll have a new topic every minute. Everyone see mistakes in other people, not in himself. That's the problem. The rules are here to help, not to make things complicated. You don't like them? No one forces you to be here.

[UWSDWF]

its all part of the learning experience.

We need more of that helpful, understanding attitude around here.

I expected the poor guy to be blasted by 8 people for not using the search function or asking a question in violation of rule 48.7-C sub section J.

An then we'll all hung and look at our vaginas with hand mirrors and just appreciate things like tofu, birkenstocks and loreal hair dye
EVERYBODY now.... ohhhhm... ohhhmmmmm ohhm ohhhhmmmm

[RangerF150]

its all part of the learning experience.

We need more of that helpful, understanding attitude around here.

I expected the poor guy to be blasted by 8 people for not using the search function or asking a question in violation of rule 48.7-C sub section J.

The guy did all the right things!
Got his picks, went off to a locksmiths got a lock to play with, had a go at taking it apart and putting it all back together again, and learning to pick it pin by pin.

Having done all this he is well entitled to ask a question, and got the answers that helped him fix his problem.

He ain't the n00b with the pick stuck in the door lock of his neighbours car, or some such story.

People are more than helpful around here to those that in some way try to help themselves , and display this , which he clearly did.

[Dragunov-21]

An then we'll all hung and look at our vaginas with hand mirrors and just appreciate things like tofu, birkenstocks and loreal hair dye
EVERYBODY now.... ohhhhm... ohhhmmmmm ohhm ohhhhmmmm

You are a strange and disturbing man...

[Shrub]

its all part of the learning experience.

We need more of that helpful, understanding attitude around here.

I expected the poor guy to be blasted by 8 people for not using the search function or asking a question in violation of rule 48.7-C sub section J.

My oh my are you gogin to get this thrown back at your in the future when you realise why this happens and that you find yourself doing the same, its all stored to memory and im waiting for your first noob bashing

[maintenanceguy]

My oh my are you gogin to get this thrown back at your in the future when you realise why this happens and that you find yourself doing the same, its all stored to memory and im waiting for your first noob bashing

I think you'll have a long wait.

Because of the subject matter here (lockpicking), I'm probably right to assume that the average age here is about 17 and 99% male. (If you don't believe it, find me one lockpicking movie on U-tube made by a guy over 25 or by a female). 17 and male means a lot of testosterone and still trying to prove how tough you are. And there's no safer place to blow off some testosterone and be tough than an internet discussion forum.

I haven't see 17 in a couple of decades. I haven't needed to show off how tough I was for a long time. I just can't see myself blasting anyone on the internet.

[Proctor]

Because of the subject matter here (lockpicking), I'm probably right to assume that the average age here is about 17 and 99% male. (If you don't believe it, find me one lockpicking movie on U-tube made by a guy over 25 or by a female). 17 and male means a lot of testosterone and still trying to prove how tough you are. And there's no safer place to blow off some testosterone and be tough than an internet discussion forum.

I haven't see 17 in a couple of decades. I haven't needed to show off how tough I was for a long time. I just can't see myself blasting anyone on the internet.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oGtgiF_0Y7I - There ya go a female lockpicker over 25 years old btw, im 15 years old and 16 in October

[Trip Doctor]

And there's no safer place to blow off some testosterone and be tough than an internet discussion forum.

..Holy shitnuts, I hope that was some sort of sarcasm..

I refer to UW's vagina comment.