Tool recommendations, information on your favorite automatic and/or mechanical lockpicking devices for those with less skills, or looking to make their own.
by RangerF150 » 4 Aug 2007 2:21
Better to have put this with your original thread , rather than starting a new one about the exact same thing.
They are all utterly useless unless you know how to pick a lock.
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by RodVT » 4 Aug 2007 10:40
This is kind of cracking me up.
They are all utterly useless unless you know how to pick a lock.
Since that is basically true, what's the deal with so many having been sold them to law enforcement for entry? I think it goes like this:
The cops approach an apartment door. The first one whips out his trusty pick gun, inserts it in the keyway and starts snapping. 30 seconds pass and he is still snapping. The next one in line says, "Let me try that thing.", grabs it from the first one and snaps away for a minute. From behind the door sounds of furious flushing can be heard. The third cop says, "You guys don't know how to do anything." and grabs the gun and starts to insert it in the keyway when the fourth cops says, "You guyz are all idjits!" and kicks the f***ing door in.
But if you really like it, you can buy one of those leather holsters and wear it on your belt all day....
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by Eyes_Only » 4 Aug 2007 11:09
I've never tried any of the pick guns sold from LockPicks.com so I couldn't really tell you an truely objective buying tip but I hear Brockhage is a pretty good one.
One pick gun I highly recommend you not to get is the one made by Ilco. That brand of pick gun is the crappiest one I have ever used. No strength to it and it takes forever to open even a simple Kwikset.
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by keysman » 4 Aug 2007 21:15
Eyes_Only wrote:One pick gun I highly recommend you not to get is the one made by Ilco. That brand of pick gun is the crappiest one I have ever used. No strength to it and it takes forever to open even a simple Kwikset.
I had a " LIFE "pickgun that actually worked.. then something happened...... ( well .....I cut my hand on a key machine.... 22 stiches later...)
and I could never get it to work again ... I bought an Ilco pick gun .. had it for years .. can't remember ever opening a lock with it .. maybe that is because I don't have the cool holster
 maybe I will post it inthe BST section
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by freakparade3 » 4 Aug 2007 22:07
2 threads for the same thing, boy your lucky Shrub is taking the weekend off, but he will be back................
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by Eyes_Only » 4 Aug 2007 22:14
We've been getting that a lot lately, new people posting about the same thing twice in a row or even more in not just one but in multiple forums hoping to get different answers when they get shot down in their first post. Kinda makes me feel a bit suspicious of these posts.
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by Shrub » 6 Aug 2007 7:33
Either way they piss me off as it doubles my work rate, i guess kids these days just couldnt careless as long as they get told what they want to know, who cares if it annoys the regulars or people who run the site as long as they are ok jack the world can revolve around them,
Pick guns are for the pros not the hobbyists, te joy of picking ocks for a hobby or sport is in the picking of them, guns ae not classed as picking and the skill required is considerably less than if you were to pick,
A pick gun in a hobbiests hand is an excuse for lack of skill with manual tools, end of.
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by UWSDWF » 8 Aug 2007 2:25
only red coloured ones work.... if the pickgun isn't red it won't work
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by Sockeye89 » 16 Aug 2007 20:07
I'm new to locksmithing, in advanced training and new to this site but I just received an Ilco thru my course and it took me maybe 5>6 minutes and I had my deadbolt picked. Meaning it worked. Sure it ook a few trial's to figure the angle out, but I had both door lock's picked in under 30 second's.
Came with a nice bag of extra's as well.
Granted, using a gun isn't the Old school way of picking and I can respect that. It's just an option.
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by Eyes_Only » 16 Aug 2007 20:33
Most people will advise you not to pick locks you rely on. Well this is no exception, especially because using a pick gun on a lock too often will one day screw it up real good.
Both the Kwikset and Schlage locks upper chamber caps can be blown off or create so much brass dust in there to start jamming things up.
Leave the pick gun in the bottom of the drawer or at least reserve it to only your practice locks and you'll be ok.
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by toufu » 15 Nov 2007 2:56
hmmm so what is the best lockpick gun?
i learned how to pick from the southord 14 slimline set
then got the southord pickgun as a gift, and i've gotten it to work with no problems
but i read somewhere here that it isn't that great
so whats the best commercial pick gun? lol i've noticed that many members here encourage diy's
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by gotta » 15 Nov 2007 3:47
Shrub wrote:Either way they piss me off as it doubles my work rate, i guess kids these days just couldnt careless as long as they get told what they want to know, who cares if it annoys the regulars or people who run the site as long as they are ok jack the world can revolve around them,
Pick guns are for the pros not the hobbyists, te joy of picking ocks for a hobby or sport is in the picking of them, guns ae not classed as picking and the skill required is considerably less than if you were to pick,
A pick gun in a hobbiests hand is an excuse for lack of skill with manual tools, end of.
I appreciate your candor regarding pick guns. They aren't magic, and they have their limitations. If anything, they demand better control of the tension wrench. In the hands of newbie, you're looking for tendonitis.  If I were to venture a guess, I use my pick gun less than 5% of the time. When I do, I use one from Lockmasters with a lifetime warranty.
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by Wolfe » 19 Nov 2007 8:25
Any pick gun is only as good as the holder of the gun is. They all work on the same principle the 3 law of motion.
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by WotABoss » 8 Jan 2014 6:35
Ok. I am just starting out with this lock picking business. I bought this metal tin thing but, I list the keys. I am not looking for anything too serious, but what would be the most efficient, user friendly lock gun. Not a $200 one though. Thanks
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