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Abus pins

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Abus pins

Postby Eyes_Only » 29 Aug 2007 8:28

I was wondering, does all the Abus padlocks use the same pinning system or is each model different?

I ask because my shop gets called out on lockout calls at self storage sheds in our area at least once or twice a month and what my shop usually does is arrive there with a huge bolt cutter but when I get sent to this kind of call I'd rather avoid using tools and providing a service that the customer might feel is something they could have done themselves and therefore not feel obliged to pay the service fee.

Most of the disk padlock they use have a M1 keyway but I figured that you never know what the customer might put on their shed so I wanted to buy the re-keyable Abus Diskus padlock with the Abus pinning kit for regular practice. If I can pick an Abus Diskus I can pick a disk lock with a Master keyway or most other simmilar lock.
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 29 Aug 2007 21:46

The Buffo locks are what I commonly see. For storage units... you should get a Granite for the storage charge.

But the Abus discus(buffo, and the next step up) has a 4 and 5 pin model. 4 pins= 3 pools, 5 pins =4 spools, if there rekeyable with wafers for a master suite, i doubt the lockie would bother with spools. The keyway is not bad, my evva has a tighter keyway and I can manueve jsut fine.

The R70 and other knock offs, use an M1 blank. Also have a spring loaded plug so picking is just cranking tension letting off a bit to set a pin and you rarely screw an opening up with them.

IMO I would use the rotating disc, discus padlocks form abus for storage units as there bumpoof and are pretty tough as far as the elements out side go. If your shop carries them I would say pitch the idea to the owner as a good option for corrosion problems.

Thats about hte thick and thin with what you'll encounter with discus locks, abus and the likes.

Hands down though, if you encounter a generic, always tell the owner go for the orginal, noone beats the abus as far as good solid construction, I use a small one on my gym locker :)
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 29 Aug 2007 21:47

The Buffo locks are what I commonly see. For storage units... you should get a Granite for the storage charge.

But the Abus discus(buffo, and the next step up) has a 4 and 5 pin model. 4 pins= 3 pools, 5 pins =4 spools, if there rekeyable with wafers for a master suite, i doubt the lockie would bother with spools. The keyway is not bad, my evva has a tighter keyway and I can manueve jsut fine.

The R70 and other knock offs, use an M1 blank. Also have a spring loaded plug so picking is just cranking tension letting off a bit to set a pin and you rarely screw an opening up with them.

IMO I would use the rotating disc, discus padlocks form abus for storage units as there bumpoof and are pretty tough as far as the elements out side go. If your shop carries them I would say pitch the idea to the owner as a good option for corrosion problems.

Thats about hte thick and thin with what you'll encounter with discus locks, abus and the likes.

Hands down though, if you encounter a generic, always tell the owner go for the orginal, noone beats the abus as far as good solid construction, I use a small one on my gym locker :)
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Postby blake1803 » 31 Aug 2007 17:28

While on the subject of Abus pins -- all of their "mushroom" pins (this is what they call them on the packaging) are really spool pins, right? I once knew the answer to this but can't seem to remember or find the answer in search now.

I just picked up a 41 series lock the other day and all of the so-called "mushroom" pins responded/picked exactly the same as spools, is why this came to mind...
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