Is it just me?

[topsk8er]

is it just me, or are doorknobs a lil harder to pick than deadbolts? ive picked open a bunch of locks, mostly shlage and kwikset deadbolts and lots of master padlocks and a bunch of cheap ones too. but whenever i try to open doorknobs i cant quite get it. maybe its just the door knob ive got cuz its kinda old, but i cant get my friends doorknob either, tho it is pretty old as well. i picked his once, but in the wrong direction (DOH) what does anyone else think bout this? does anyone else have the same problems with doorknobs?

[Anarchyvocals]

This is because deadbolts have bigger and stronger springs in them, especially the schlegs. Good lock.

Deadbolts are just big pin tumblers. THe springs just make it a little more challenging and it also makes it harder to use snapguns and pickguns

[Eyes_Only]

I sometimes find door knobs a lil harder to open too, to me its cos they arnt secured down firmly like a deadbolt causing them to rattle around making it a lil more tricky to work with, especially the schlage door knobs.

[HeadHunterCEO]

This is because deadbolts have bigger and stronger springs in them, especially the schlegs. Good lock.

Deadbolts are just big pin tumblers. THe springs just make it a little more challenging and it also makes it harder to use snapguns and pickguns

jhonny get down stairs right now and do your homework !

[topsk8er]

anybody have any advice or a different technique they use for pickin open doorknobs?

[CaptHook]

A tip for doorknobs, turn the know in the direction you are picking, and hold it there. Takes some of the play out of the plug making it a little easier to work with.
Chuck

[Eyes_Only]

One thing to remember is that the direction you turn the plug for unlocking is inconsistant with key-in-knob locks. With most kwikset knobs you can pick it in the same direction you turn the knob to open the door but then there are other locks like some schlage knobs that must be picked in the opposite direction to unlock it like what I have on my front door. Best way to counter this problem is to get yourself a decent plug spinner, that lil baby is a life saver.

[topsk8er]

thx for the replies, i was thinkin about makin a plug spinner since i can only ever pick it in the locked position

[Anarchyvocals]

There is a real easy way to open door knobs called cracking.
Just take a torque wrench and apply light pressure to keep the pins from sticking and them get yourself a hammer. Knock on the bottom lock a couple of times with the hammer to knock all the drivers out of the keyway and to catch them.

[topsk8er]

wont that damage the lock

[Chucklz]

No, and it may also be called rapping.

[HeadHunterCEO]

One thing to remember is that the direction you turn the plug for unlocking is inconsistant with key-in-knob locks. With most kwikset knobs you can pick it in the same direction you turn the knob to open the door but then there are other locks like some schlage knobs that must be picked in the opposite direction to unlock it like what I have on my front door. Best way to counter this problem is to get yourself a decent plug spinner, that lil baby is a life saver.

if you pick a knob lock the wrong way most will allow you pop to pop of the knob via the retainer pokey place.

most but not all

[Mad Mick]

retainer pokey place.

Great description 'Hunter. Effective...yes, but really made me larf!!

[CaptHook]

Its also called a "time for a new doorknob" unless you are using a rubber mallet such as a deadblow. Rapping is a valid bypass method sometimes, but will more than likely damage whatever you are working on, even if its only the finish.
Chuck

[Mad Mick]

Yeah 'Hook. But I mean...'pokey place'....still funny!