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M.O. key

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M.O. key

Postby prgmti » 2 Sep 2007 23:35

Hi everyone, I've been working for an electrical contractor at the airport in Houston, and have heard the words "m.o. key" mentioned quite a few times. I've searched a few places with no luck, so maybe someone here could fill me in about them. Also, what makes this kind of key or lock different than say, a deadbolt lock?
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Postby Wolfe » 6 Sep 2007 19:27

Are you sure they are not just saying monkey?
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Postby Gordon Airporte » 6 Sep 2007 19:33

Master Operator?
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Postby freakparade3 » 6 Sep 2007 23:23

Wolfe wrote:Are you sure they are not just saying monkey?


You got that from Google...... Admit it!! I googled :lol: it too and it asked me the same thing!
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Re: M.O. key

Postby Squelchtone » 7 Sep 2007 1:29

prgmti wrote:Hi everyone, I've been working for an electrical contractor at the airport in Houston, and have heard the words "m.o. key" mentioned quite a few times. I've searched a few places with no luck, so maybe someone here could fill me in about them. Also, what makes this kind of key or lock different than say, a deadbolt lock?



why not just ask the people you are working for what the heck they're talking about? maybe they mean master key but have learned to say it in some colloquial way that makes sense to them but nobody outside that company.

I see people make up their own spelling for terms sometimes and when they say it you know what they mean, but when they write it on paper with their own version of the spelling, it takes the NSA to figure out what they're talking about.

wish I had some fun examples of this, but Jack Daniels has over powered my brain.

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Postby Lorek » 7 Sep 2007 4:25

Could be something similar to a safety deposit box key in that you need two keys to effectively open the door. Or some places still use an older system for open/closing series of doors, i can't remember the name off the top of my head its like Night Watchmen or Sentry Watchmen. bleh its late. I'm sure it'l come to me tomarrow morning.
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Postby prgmti » 7 Sep 2007 5:28

Yeah, it might be monkey, they keep some in cages in each terminal. Since it's Texas, we also keep our horses tied up outside while we pick up city slickers from California and New York to go to the nearby saloons.

Anyway, the lock is manufactured by Best. It's not a dual key system, and I haven't gotten a chance to look at one of the keys very closely. I've also noticed that these same locks are in use in a lot of schools and office buildings too. Do these locks use security pins, serrated pins, or something of the sort?
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Postby prgmti » 7 Sep 2007 5:33

And to answer Squelchtone, I have asked them about it and none of them had an answer, so it could be something like a sort of master key or master operator.
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Postby Lorek » 7 Sep 2007 13:33

Best locks are used for a lot of commercial applications. I'm sure you can find more information on them if you search around however I do fear this is straying into an advanced forum topic as Best Locks do have some high security uses. I could say more but I wouldn't wanna anger one of the moderators nor break the site rules.
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Postby locksportboy » 7 Sep 2007 14:13

why dont you asked them yourself you said you are working there for since so ask someone you may be fimiliar to the workers at airport
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Postby criminalhate » 7 Sep 2007 15:41

locksportboy in one post above the one you just posted prgmti says he already asked and they didn't tell him / know themselves.

I do know with alot of best locks you have a control key to remove the cylinder which could be called a master operator key. Which makes it easy to rekey the locks if one of the keys is lost or stolen. As Lorek already mentioned some of the best lock models are for the advanced section only while some are just a more basic style. So it depend on the model of lock they are using.
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Postby prgmti » 7 Sep 2007 17:51

I've done a little bit more research and found the lock model to be a Best 40H mortise lock. Is this one of those for the advanced forum or not? I would expect the electronic locks to be, but not this one. Thanks for everyones help.
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Postby Gordon Airporte » 7 Sep 2007 19:53

There is plenty of discussion of BEST Interchangeable Core locks on the site, it's just a pain to search for it because 'best' is such a common word. Try searching for the phrase "two shear lines" or "control shear" and that should get you the important info.
The main thing is to keep your picks the heck out institutional locks and buy your own core from e-bay if you want to play with one.
(Not that you would poke around like that personally, but we get a suspicious number of questions about these locks and undoubtedly many are overcome by temptation - or worse.)
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Postby prgmti » 7 Sep 2007 20:52

Yeah, no worries about me trying to pick them, we have access to all the areas anyway. I'll try searching for those terms. Appreciate the help.
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