What type of lock is this?

by **NorskeDiv** » 2 Oct 2007 6:23

Just curious, I'm thinking it might be a good lock to begin learning on. But I'm having some trouble with it. Initially I thought it was just a warded lock, though now I believe it's something else. The keyhole as (as you can see) is shaped like a semi circle - further in the lock has five discs which have one side cut out - in other words also semi circles.

Caption: This is a rough diagram of how these discs can line up. They move somewhat (totally?) independently of each other.

Caption: I found this online, I think the key for the lock looked like the above, but I could be wrong. This is really just my guess.

For the time being I'm going to practice on some easier locks. But can anyone satisfy my curiosity and tell me what type of lock this is? I couldn't find anything in the forums or online mentioning a whole bunch of spinning discs. Sorry if I missed something obvious. This is probably just an easy lock and I'm being a n00b!

In case anyone wants to know, this lock is on the laundry machine in our basement. It was originally a pay laundry machine, but the coin collecting part of it is totally broken. Each time it is unplugged or otherwise loses power I have to press a button on the top so it will do loads for free. Also sometimes it just stops in the middle of doing a load and doesn't do anything, very annoying since you can get left with soggy soapy clothes...

by **raimundo** » 2 Oct 2007 6:26

That is an abloy classic cylinder, either very difficult or impossible to pick. requires special tools.

by **vrocco** » 2 Oct 2007 7:14

Yeah not a good pick for your first lock. This is arguably one of the most secure types of locks. Google for "disc lock" or "abloy lock" and read about it. Also, this lock is classified as "Advanced Material" on this board, so no one is really going to help you with it until you have acces to the Advanced Forums.

I would hold onto it, but pick up a kwikset or schlage deadbolt for $20 at WalMart or Home Depot and start on that.

I recommend getting db's beginner exercise out of the "Pick-Fu" forum and start with that and your deadbolt.

Good luck and have fun!

by **JackNco** » 2 Oct 2007 8:00

I doubt its an Abloy with only 5 discs but its still not a good one to start on.

by **Jaakko** » 2 Oct 2007 8:59

It isn't exactly Abloy (it would be written on it if it would), but it is working the same as Abloy.

Yes, it is possible to pick, but yo can't get that info yet.

by **Johnny P** » 3 Oct 2007 5:00

Actually, ESD manufactures vending machine locks and many of them are used in commercial laudro mats on the service doors of washers and dryers.

I am curious as to where you purchased the lock.

Joan

by **Johnny P** » 3 Oct 2007 5:01

Never mind. I see you didn't actually purchase the lock.

Joan

by **greyman** » 3 Oct 2007 8:38

IT is Abloy - rebadged by ESD like they seem to do for a number of other brands including DUO. A very poor choice for a first pick. Instead, try your local hardware store and get a 5 pin front door cylinder (not the lock, just the cylinder). Search around on the archives here first.

by **Jaakko** » 3 Oct 2007 11:25

greyman wrote:IT is Abloy - rebadged by ESD like they seem to do for a number of other brands including DUO.

No it is NOT Abloy. It is Abloy only if it says Abloy on the face and that doesn't say Abloy. It is similar or the same as Abloy, but not an Abloy.

by **Dragunov-21** » 3 Oct 2007 19:17

It's an Abloy *type* lock, the parts aren't made by Abloy, it just runs on the same principles. A mate at school has an "abloy-type" padlock, but made by master (perhaps mastery). It uses discs just like an Abloy, but the workmanship is obviously poorer.

As for picking, it's a no-go until you get some advanced tools and forum access

by **JackNco** » 3 Oct 2007 19:40

Heh i have a Yale on my door, its the same type of lock as a DOM but its no where near as hard to pick as a DOM.

by **bluestar** » 4 Oct 2007 2:53

Which DOM are you speaking of? the double-Row ix or D, the single-Row iX, RN or (R)S, or the Diamant?

by **JackNco** » 4 Oct 2007 8:41

Well i have an Rn

by **greyman** » 4 Oct 2007 15:02

Dragunov-21 wrote:It's an Abloy *type* lock, the parts aren't made by Abloy, it just runs on the same principles. A mate at school has an "abloy-type" padlock, but made by master (perhaps mastery). It uses discs just like an Abloy, but the workmanship is obviously poorer.

As for picking, it's a no-go until you get some advanced tools and forum access

Ummm, and to Jaakko also, with respect, how do you know the parts aren't made by Abloy? Maybe Abloy makes them and has them stamped ESD? It's been done before. Or you could be right - ESD might make them under licence, but I would be a little surprised since they have lots of other high security locks that look and feel *just like* the originals. It would be one hell of a production line making all those different high security locks to the original specs. But then again, I could be wrong ...

by **Jaakko** » 4 Oct 2007 16:22

greyman wrote:Ummm, and to Jaakko also, with respect, how do you know the parts aren't made by Abloy?

Because Abloy has high standards. I can go to my local hardware store and buy a lock just like Abloy PL3020 with Classic keyway, but it just doesn't read Abloy on it. It is poor workmanship, cheap and altogether, a fake.

Everybody seems to make these in China (or some other el cheapo land), as Abloy doesn't have a patent for the Classic anymore.

If it is from Abloy, it will definately read Abloy on the front or the side. And because that is a cam lock, there would be two little lines on the front if it was from Abloy, designating whether it is chromed brass or steel.

What type of lock is this?

What type of lock is this?

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