Bikemate-Lock with unknown key

[esbit]

Hi!

Since about two years there is a bike in the garage of my girlfriend which is locked with a bikemate-lock. nobody uses this bike, so it doesn't matter, that the key is lost. But now she wants to sell the bike and we neither know where the key is nor which type of key it is.
Here are two images of the lock and keyhole:



Perhaps anyone of you knows the type of lock and how it can be opened. If not we have to cut the lock.

cu esbit

ps: excuse my English, I'm from Germany

[raimundo]

My guess from the photo is that its a double bitted abloy, of the type that kryptonite has gone to since the ace cylinder bit the dust.

[esbit]

Err,

I'm from Germany

Do you have a photo of such a key?
My English is not too bad, I think, but I'm afraid I even so didn't understand all of your description. I think its only because I don't know kryptonite and ace cylinder. But nevertheless, thanks for your answer, I will ask google about the "double bitted abloy".

bye

[Jaakko]

It is not Abloy, but Abloy type lock. More like Abus with restricted keyway.

And yep, it is disc detainer lock, so picking it open requires special tool(s) and hefty amount of practice.

So your best bet is just to cut it off, it is easier and cheaper that way.

[bluestar]

The lock is similar to the Abus Plus systems, but with more sloppy tolerances and probably without fakes, and picking will require a special tool.

If you're not an experienced lockpicker willing spending much money and time for fun, just cut it off with a pair of wire cutters or bolt cutters (Seitenschneider oder Bolzenschneider).

Viel Erfolg!
bluestar

[esbit]

Hmm, okay, I'll cut it of, but better with an angle grinder, because this is a very heavy chain.

Thanks anyway. Perhaps I keep the lock and try to pick it, when I have more practise and better tools. I have only a standard pickset and I made myself a set of 5 picks with feeler gauges today. So I don't have special tools. Which tool would I need for picking my bikemate-lock?

[Jaakko]

Something not to be discussed on open forums, so it is advanced material. Sorry, but you have to show some interest and participation on these forums to gain access there

And welcome to the site, I hope you enjoy!

[esbit]

Thanks, I will enjoy it. I visited this site almost for a year now, but I never had to create a topic, because I found answers for all my questions within a few minutes. Until this morning .

[mh]

you might also want to have a look at this thread (lots of interesting pictures)
viewtopic.php?t=13478
and look for ABUS Plus.

Cheers,
mh

[FFVison]

Thanks, I will enjoy it. I visited this site almost for a year now, but I never had to create a topic, because I found answers for all my questions within a few minutes. Until this morning .

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I don't post much on here because I haven't had to. I just search for what I need to find and then I read it. I was reading these forums for a few months now, basically since I started picking. I started picking at the beginning of this year sometime.

On a related note, I think I have seen these type of locks in stores and I was a bit curious how picking these is accomplished. If I remember correctly, the top of the key seems to be at an incline, either slanting left or right. It seems to alternate, and I am not certain if they vary in degree, though I would imagine they do.

[mercurial]

FFVision - here are some PDF files about Abloy locks. The Abloy-style locks, such as the Kyrptonite and the Abus mentioned in this thread operate on the same principle.

http://www.toool.nl/abloy.pdf
http://www.toool.nl/abloypart2.pdf
http://www.toool.nl/abloypart3.pdf
http://www.toool.nl/abloypart4.pdf

For those unfamiliar with the design of these locks, they make very interesting reading.

...Mark