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upside down locks

Postby redredkrovy » 14 Oct 2007 18:06

I'm new at picking locks, I just bought a lock pick set at a gun show. I am not having alot of trouble picking regular locks with the raking method however one of the locks on my house are upside down. I have read that they tend to be harder to pick and sure enough it took me about five minutes to get it versus 30 sec. on my other locks. So my question is are there any good techniques for picking a lock that is put in upside down?
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Postby mrdan » 14 Oct 2007 18:39

Shure! Just take it off and put it back right side up. HaHaHa LOL :lol:

That was my smart arse answer


Seeing a lock upside down gets under my skin about as much as seeing an electrical outlet upside down :x I guess some people think that this will end bumping if you put the locks upside down. :?
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Postby nzleagle » 14 Oct 2007 18:52

In NZ, we get alot of Euro cylinders which by the way they are installed get installed upside down, just because it is upside down doesnt make it any harder to bump, pick yes, as we do most of our picking with a pick gun, we even have a pick gun that picks down.

I personaly havent attempted a upside down lock as of yet, but from what ive heard (from my boss who has been in the trade for over 30 years!!) they are alot harder than if it was the right way around.
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Postby Gordon Airporte » 14 Oct 2007 19:54

nzleagle wrote:In NZ,


Um, everything in New Zealand and Australia is upside down ;-)
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Postby nzleagle » 14 Oct 2007 20:01

haha, then why are they EURO locks??? :P :P Its us that have them the right way up, whos upside down now :P
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Postby josh0094 » 14 Oct 2007 21:38

Gordon Airporte wrote:
nzleagle wrote:In NZ,


Um, everything in New Zealand and Australia is upside down ;-)


uncluding your toilets.
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Postby globallockytoo » 14 Oct 2007 22:25

Now this thread is completely off track.....

if NZ and Aust are upside down...and things run backward


Why when you use a screwdriver do you unscrew counter clockwise and screw in clockwise?

Why when opening a bottle do you open the top counterclockwise and close it clockwise?

Bearing the above questions in mind....why does water go down the sink counterclockwise in the USA/UK (northern hemisphere) when almost every other product from clocks to screws to bottles to whatever...run clockwise.....which happens to be the same way that water goes down the sink or the dunny (toilet) in the southern hemisphere?

If NZ/Aust are so backward....how come those countries solved the bumping phenomenon more than 25 years ago?

Why are 2 of the best locksmith software products from NZ?
Who is backwards now?
:P :P :lol:
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Postby Eyes_Only » 14 Oct 2007 22:29

If you pick locks long enough and have a lot of experience picking more difficult locks, like ones with spool tumblers and pin-in-pin systems, an upside down lock won't pose much of a problem. For me it's when the lock is installed sideways is when it gives me the most trouble.
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Postby nzleagle » 14 Oct 2007 23:32

Why are 2 of the best locksmith software products from NZ?
Who is backwards now?


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euro

Postby raimundo » 15 Oct 2007 6:32

Euro locks are designed to be installed pins down, and consequently, they tend to have heavier pin springs, a north american type lock made to have pins up will often have lighter springs, and when these are installed upside down, this can create problems if the springs are compressed and weakend. However, euro locks also seem to have more lenght in the bible drillings, and some may be more suceptable to the comb attack which requires room to push top and bottom pins right up into the bible thus clearing all pins from the plug.
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Postby mrdan » 15 Oct 2007 17:20

globallockytoo wrote:Now this thread is completely off track.....

if NZ and Aust are upside down...and things run backward

...Why are 2 of the best locksmith software products from NZ?
Who is backwards now?
:P :P :lol:



!!!taht elbmeser I !!!!YEH :lol:




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