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homemade tension wrench problem

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

homemade tension wrench problem

Postby shimbuddy » 28 Oct 2007 20:39

i have been trying make a homemade tension wrench but afterwards it just bends alot when i put tention on it. i am using sawz all blades and bending them using a propane torch. i do quench the metal after bunding them. i thought quenching them would make them harder but it is not working for me. am i doing something wrong?
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Postby Stray » 28 Oct 2007 22:17

how much tension are you using...?
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Postby Eyes_Only » 28 Oct 2007 22:19

Hacksaw blades might be too thin for tension wrenches. Try windshield wiper inserts instead.

I don't know much about tempering metal so I can't help you there but most of the time when a tension wrench bends its because too much turning pressure is being placed on it. I've bent many wrenches this way in the past myself, and those were commercially made tools.
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Spring steel

Postby Raymond » 28 Oct 2007 23:05

Try to use pieces of spring steel for your turning tools. Windshield wiper reinforcements (no heat), street sweeper blades (no heat), ground down allen wrenches (rigid-no heat ), feeler gauges, and many other items make good tool material.

Even the best spring steel and even rigid turning tools can be bent if you put sufficient torque on it. But, if you have heated it to make the bends, then you have probably removed all of the spring temper.

When I asked for similar info Kaotik provided this on retempering:

"Some bends can be done cold (depending on how aggressive the curvature is made). The sharper the curve is when fracture and breaking can occur.

If bending while using heat, heat the desired area to a red glow then bend while the metal is stilll hot, (if you let it cool slowly then it would annealing it) reheat and bend until the desired curve is achieved.

When tempering is needed, sand the material to get a shiny somewhat reflective finish and heat the metal (area that was bent and a little more on each side of the area) to approx. 450-650 degrees F, or untill a pale-straw colored yellow (light blue is about the limit) is present, then cool radiply in cold water or cold-room temperature oil.

You will get the strength back but, because the lack of proper heating environment and processes it will not be as if it was never heated. So the piece will have lost some of it's springy properties. "

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Postby therealmuffinman » 30 Oct 2007 17:38

ok im not sure if this has been posted before but if anybody is familiar with model rockets, there is a motor clip that holds the motor in, i made a tension wrench out of that, i didnt even heat up the metal, i just used 2 pliers, it works wonders, here is a pic of the motor clip (motor retainer)

http://www.scalerockets.com/rocket/enginemount.jpg

here is a few pics of my tension wrench

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Postby therealmuffinman » 30 Oct 2007 17:41

pics were taken with my phone by the way , sorry for blurrieness
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Postby Siegel » 16 Nov 2007 14:42

I have made a couple with Estes motor mount and they work fine. What I would suggest is guenching with 3 in 1 oil. I seem to be posting this a lot.
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But I find it makes everything a bit more rigid and with it you can make even a paper clip into a formidable weapon against wafer locks as I found out.
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Postby steve0527 » 17 Dec 2007 16:29

Go to one of the auto wreckers around your house and buy some wiper blades. You want the metal strips inside of them. You can cold bend them with 2 pliers.
Here's a pic of what I'm talking about.
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