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Medeco m3 Breakdown

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Postby maxxx » 28 Oct 2007 23:58

I like the slots at the face of the plug at 12 o'clock and 3 o'clock. That would be those pesky anti-drill rods and lunes that just dont like carbide/cobalt drill bits and corded Millwaukee 1/2" drills.

Its a very well made lock, but I just dont like the way Medico plays baseball with those who install and maintain their locks.
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Postby Trip Doctor » 29 Oct 2007 16:30

How exactly does the code to one of these look like? There must be the pin code, sidebar code, and a slider code?
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Postby maxxx » 30 Oct 2007 0:04

Yah, the M3. Its the Porsche GT Twin Turbo, Limited production, 4 piston floating caliper ABS disc brake, twin disc sintered metal clutch, 200 kph rated tyres, wheel airbag, door airbag, side curtain airbag with an anti submarine shoulder harness and full roll cage model.

14 tuned speakers, with crossover, onboard gps, redundant anti-theft devices, including one available remotely to law enforcement worldwide.

Defeat an M3, would be the equivalent of winning the International Lottery.

It brings to mind on of my friends who put a cold air intake device on his BMW. About a month later he took it to a shop because it ran like krap. The tech popped the hood and said (in a German accent) "So, you know more than 3000 German Engineers?". He went home and took the parts he removed back to the shop, and they replaced them.

Its a tough lock. One of the best ever made in my humble opinion.
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Postby mh » 30 Oct 2007 0:16

maxxx wrote:It brings to mind on of my friends who put a cold air intake device on his BMW. About a month later he took it to a shop because it ran like krap. The tech popped the hood and said (in a German accent) "So, you know more than 3000 German Engineers?". He went home and took the parts he removed back to the shop, and they replaced them.


:D I like zat
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Postby mh » 30 Oct 2007 1:05

maxxx wrote:Yah, the M3. Its the Porsche GT Twin Turbo, ...


and, btw, there another nice car that lends itself to a comparison, if just for the name...

Our new BMW M3, of course :)

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/m ... ction.html

New V8 engine, carbon roof, ...

Cheers,
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Postby Legion303 » 30 Oct 2007 7:49

Trip Doctor wrote:How exactly does the code to one of these look like? There must be the pin code, sidebar code, and a slider code?


I believe the slider is of a fixed length on every M3 produced, so no special coding needed, just special blanks. Now that I think about it, those might be restricted to authorized dealers anyway. But I've heard from a few sources (including JK) that the slider doesn't add any real security.

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Postby Trip Doctor » 30 Oct 2007 20:33

Hmm.. so if the slider is the same length on every lock... wouldn't an M3 blank, by default, come with the ledge/step that takes moves the slider into place?
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Postby Legion303 » 31 Oct 2007 3:43

Yep. JK's key closeups in his original post do show that ledge.

I don't know how much more we can discuss this in the open part of the forum since it's technically a high security lock. :P

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Postby Marco » 31 Oct 2007 4:45

Just thought I'd share this video that I came across. It isn't necessarily from an M3, but it shows the top view of a biaxial cylinder and how the pins align when the key is inserted.

http://deviating.net/lockpicking/02.14-biaxial03.html
The link to download the video is at the bottom of the page.
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Postby JK_the_CJer » 4 Nov 2007 11:03

I already put something up in the advanced forums, but I thought I'd let you guys know that I finally picked that m3 fully pinned last night. I added it to the favorite locks section of my website:

http://theamazingking.com/locks.html

Also check out the beating it took by constantly being in my lockbag (compared to the original "ooh shiny" pics):

http://theamazingking.com/images/m3/0.jpg

I'll try to get it open on video as soon as possible. I can't reveal any details here, but I'll tell you these things can be opened without relying on blind luck and the technique I developed is not easy and needs lots of practice.
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