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how to find the binding pin

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how to find the binding pin

Postby begin_picker » 3 Nov 2007 0:30

Firstly picking a lock can depend on if you you can find and set the binding pin. what you do is apply a bit of force to your tension wrench, place your pick inside the lock and feel each pin, you are looking for the hardest pin to push up and that is your binding key.

P.s the only reason why i posted this is because i could not find it anywhere and had touble practising this. well i hope im right, thanks :D
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Re: how to find the binding pin

Postby begin_picker » 3 Nov 2007 0:33

begin_picker wrote:Firstly picking a lock can depend on if you you can find and set the binding pin. what you do is apply a bit of force to your tension wrench, place your pick inside the lock and feel each pin, you are looking for the hardest pin to push up and that is your binding key.

P.s the only reason why i posted this is because i could not find it anywhere and had touble practising this. well i hope im right, thanks :D


i meant that i couldnt find any information about finding the binding pin, cheers
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Postby JK_the_CJer » 3 Nov 2007 7:59

You have it pretty much correct, good job :-)

Remember though, you should be looking for a pin that feels a bit harder to push up and not a pin that feels very hard to push up. If a pin feels very difficult to depress, it probably means that its already set. It could also be a false set. Also note that if it is falsely set (in a security pin I mean) and you continue pressing on it, you'll notice the plug start to rotation in the direction opposite the applied tension (or "torsion" if anyone still cares) :-)
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Postby begin_picker » 4 Nov 2007 5:08

torsion :roll: ,, yeh tension is better lol :D
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Postby Eyes_Only » 4 Nov 2007 7:36

Tension, torsion, torque, rotational pressure, all the same. :wink:
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Postby 5thcorps » 5 Nov 2007 16:25

I've trained myself in the past to try to get a "false" set on security pins. If you can teach yourself how to "false" set pins reasonably well, then you are more well equipped to combat them when they happen unintentionally. I've studied the dynamics of how to pick and how not to pick. Develop your feel for both and you'll learn to instantly recognize just what you're doing wrong. What's funny is in the beginning when you're trying to do things wrong you'll be amazed at how many times you have an unintentionally successful pick. LOL. Happened to me a ton in the beginning.
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Postby illusion » 5 Nov 2007 19:01

Don't always assume that the binding pin is the *hardest* to move... This causes trouble when you pick a lock that is covered in gunk and makes all the pins hard to move.

It's not so much hard as it is different - it'll feel as if something is pressing against it, which is actually exactly what is happening.

JK_the_CJer kinda wrote the same thing, but i wanted to try and perhaps make it clearer.

Yeah - I personally favor the technique of just ramming security pins into false set and then setting them properly at the end... It's not the best way for a few reasons, but I find it useful.
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