Chateau C 970 lock

[Emrys]

I did it about 6-8 months ago. Out of the navy now. Whoa

As far as tension, light at first, then of course you're going to need more tension to turn it. and like i said, i raked it once or twice, then went back and spp it. I can't remember, but i'm pretty sure it's got security pins in it. If you're new to lock picking, I would recommend moving on to something else. This lock isn't too difficult, it just gives confusing feedback.

One lock that definitely developed my sense of feel for lock picking was the American Lock 5200. It's got a few security pins in there, but if you're light with the tension, you'll get a good amount of feedback. Try to buy a new one though. older ones tend to be a little harder.

-Rob

[poor paperclip picker]

Thanks for the advice Emrys, although when I try to use really light tension (some one earlier said hardly any tension), I can not get any of the pins to set. But if I increase the tension just a little, some set, and there are no binded pins they all just give the feedback from the spring pushing against it. I don't know if anyone has any advice for this. Maybe if I can find that happy medium between really light and kind of light tension I will be able to get it.

[Emrys]

that's what you're going to have to do. That goes the same for all locks too. Tension really is the key to opening a majority of locks. A little goes a long way

But, like i said, you might just want to set that one down for a while & move onto something else. one good thing about lock picking is the more you do it, the better you get.

If you're determined and don't want to give up on it, you could pay very close attention to the key that opens it, and try to push the pins to the right height that you think the key would.

If you're VERY determined, you can break the thing apart and disect it. I have done this on more than one occasion in a fit of rage. lol It's a bit time consuming, but it'll let you know whats' going on in the lock. If you're careful, you can take the whole thing apart and start with 1 pin...then 2...and so forth until you get up all (6, i believe) of them.

-Rob

[raimundo]

the only chateau lock I have experience with belongs to a friend and he let me try to pick it a few times, I have seen the key and it has a very long pin near the center, other than this I think its a typical chinese laminated security pin type padlock. Of course Im a bit nonplusse that I did not get it open, but I know that if it was my lock, and I had the time to work at it, I would get it open and then learn to open it repeatedly and quickly.

[poor paperclip picker]

I have seen the key and it has a very long pin near the center, other than this I think its a typical chinese laminated security pin type padlock.

I have a picture of the key. But as for the security pins the website says it has mushroom security pins. http://www.chateauproducts.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=5833
Here is the picture:

[raimundo]

anyone have a chateau that dosent have long pins at the middle or front? I think that this lock company has chosen one of the effective anti picking profiles, even medeco decided to do that to their keys, you won't find one without a deep cut with short pins behind it.

[poor paperclip picker]

Has anyone ever tried to pick this from the hole in the BACK of the keyway?

anyone have a chateau that dosent have long pins at the middle or front?

Looking at both of these, I wonder if it would help to pick the 2 front long pins from the front, and attempt to pick the remaining pins from the hole in the back.

It might take awhile to get the feel of using the hole in the back of the lock, but I think it could be beneficial...

[tecnovist]

poor paperclip picker ---Hi--- do you have a pic of the Chateau C 970 lock that you can post thanks

[poor paperclip picker]

poor paperclip picker ---Hi--- do you have a pic of the Chateau C 970 lock that you can post thanks

[josh0094]

i have 2 of theese locks. i can get them really fast and here's how...

lightest tension you possibly can use.

i use a HPC snake rake turned upside down.

just rake it. once u feel the cylindar turn even the littlest bit. it takes ALOT of tension to get the cylindar to turn


hope this helps.

[Mike13]

Anyone have a link to or a picture of a cutaway for this lock?
I have this lock as well as a similar knockoff.
I have had the best luck with picking this lock using a smaller (in width) tension rod through the back hole and SPP with a half diamond.

[Mike13]

Ok, so out of desperation/curiosity I sacrificed my C970 and a Uhaul knock-off. These locks were no match for a bench grinder and a dremel.





Not shown are the pins from the C970, it had 3 spool pins.

[dougfarre]

i have 2 of theese locks. i can get them really fast and here's how...

lightest tension you possibly can use.

i use a HPC snake rake turned upside down.

just rake it. once u feel the cylindar turn even the littlest bit. it takes ALOT of tension to get the cylindar to turn


hope this helps.

Josh, you really got these locks down hu? I have always had trouble with them. I am really impressed. Good job.

[JackNco]

all depends on which core is in them. I have one that will operate as if u are using a key (well nearly) with several picks.

[poor paperclip picker]

mike13 nice pictures. It gives a good view on the insides of the lock. And thanks for the info about the spool pins. I will try this lock again. I am probably a bit rusty with my picking. I have been busy with all my classes and my job lately.