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Brinks 101-40001

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Brinks 101-40001

Postby mikaelsaigo » 12 Nov 2007 2:30

I recently started lock picking, I picked up a few locks mainly brinks and this one lock I have been having a lot of trouble with I think the serial # is 101-40001, the rating is high on security.
The issue I have been having is when I pick it, keyhole will turn almost to the point of opening but it will never get there, I have tried over and over again, another thing to mention is I feel certain difficult pins that only move under a tiny amount of tension .
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Postby jgor » 12 Nov 2007 2:34

What you are experiencing is called a "false set". This means there are security pins in the lock. There are some great threads on this site about techniques on picking locks with security pins. Read up on them, and be sure to post back if you still have trouble.
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Postby mikaelsaigo » 12 Nov 2007 2:59

I was reading them but there just not helping.
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Postby El Capitan » 12 Nov 2007 14:38

mikaelsaigo wrote:I was reading them but there just not helping.
Haha, I was just on youtube lookin at lock picking videos, and though I read the threads here I still didn't have a clear idea of what it was to have security pins. This vid cleared a lot of things up for me, give it a go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNVGuR-szi4&NR=1
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Postby Servalite6354 » 12 Nov 2007 19:46

Interesting video. Just in case you have a slow connection or the video gets removed, he said he got his info from the MIT guide, which is certainly easy enough to find. To get around the false set, you have to release most of the tension, and set the spool, or security pin for real. He says to start from the back and work forward, to avoid losing previously set pins.
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Postby FFVison » 13 Nov 2007 0:59

Servalite6354 wrote:Interesting video. Just in case you have a slow connection or the video gets removed, he said he got his info from the MIT guide, which is certainly easy enough to find. To get around the false set, you have to release most of the tension, and set the spool, or security pin for real. He says to start from the back and work forward, to avoid losing previously set pins.


It kinda depends on the lock. Some locks bind better back to front, while a lot of them bind from front to back. I know that with my Master 532 I pick from front to back and when or if there are any pins that fall back down, I just pick them again. I guess this is just my technique that works for me. I'm still by no means all that great at picking, but you might notice that this is the case sometimes. Don't take that advice to be absolute is all I'm saying.

I have seen some other advice as well which I don't know if it would help you with this specific lock. I have read about people picking the regular pin last or oversetting it first and then working on the security pins, which is supposed to make spool pins and mushroom pins bind in the right spots or something. I haven't really tried this technique, but I imagine it might make it bind first and then become spring loaded for a moment and then push back and bind again. Has anyone tried this out to confirm? Anyway, that's my take on security pins... Oh, btw, that does sound like that's what you are dealing with right now.
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