Curtain Pick for ERA Invincible

[jimshorrock]

I have spent a lot of time looking at Curtain Picks over the past few months. I am still trying to find a pick that will get under the low levers on the ERA Invincible. I know that you can "corkscrew" some pick wires on some tools if the low lever is the closest one to you, but that isnt really an option if the low levers are to the centre or rear.

Has anybody found a reliable pick for this lock?

I have the same problem with the ERA Fortress, but that may be taken care of with the new SWS Fortress + pick which I am about to try.

[NickBristol]

Personally, I find the CB multigauge pick good on the Invincible, and other BS locks. It took me a little while to get used to it but now I use it 9 times out of 10.

The SWST Fortress+ tool does look very nice tho. I'd be interested to know how well it performs.

[Chris B]

[quote="jimshorrock"] I know that you can "corkscrew" some pick wires on some tools if the low lever is the closest one to you, but that isnt really an option if the low levers are to the centre or rear.[/quote]

By your term "corkscrew", I presume that you are referring to manipulating the wire underneath Low Lift Levers.
There are very few lever configurations within the ERA Invincible and it’s family that will prevent those locks being picked. A lock with #3 & 5 levers both being Low Lift Levers, is no problem at all.
The ERA Fortress, although all the levers sit low, a properly shaped wire passes underneath the levers with no difficulty.
Also with the Fortress if your tension is correct, you can totally disregard any false gates.
Generally it takes less than a minute to pick the Fortress.

[plumber carl]

on locking around the locksmiths sites in the UK there appears to be a pick in the making which is going to open ERA curtain locks in minutes how far its off yet i don't know but if or when it arrives i be ordering one.for sure

[taylorgdl]

There are tools for ERA locks, see Chris B's post above.

The is not one pick that will open them all.

Chris B's picks (you'll need a couple of different wires) will open them in minutes, with practice.

[plumber carl]

There are tools for ERA locks, see Chris B's post

Chris B's picks (you'll need a couple of different wires) will open them in minutes, with practice.

yes appreciate the cb picks will open with practise The site which i meant was the bump key site which suggests that it as a n d e tool in the making which will over come the difficulty associated with these locks And suggest thay have found a weakness with in the design ?Weather its a pick or a new approach it does not say. But looks very interesting

[panalman]

There are tools for ERA locks, see Chris B's post

Chris B's picks (you'll need a couple of different wires) will open them in minutes, with practice.

yes appreciate the cb picks will open with practise The site which i meant was the bump key site which suggests that it as a n d e tool in the making which will over come the difficulty associated with these locks And suggest thay have found a weakness with in the design ?Weather its a pick or a new approach it does not say. But looks very interesting

The only curtain pick that bump key uk promote is the so called dangerfeild pick which is the R&B medical pick with a couple of different wires however its still a straight line pick in my book and has limits unlike the CB pick and the picks from south west tools which don't as you can angle the wire to get under low levers.

The Fortress + pick is very versatile and preforms well on other locks like union, yale, 3u etc but not had a lot of sucsess on the Fortress itself but I am still working on that one and I am sure I will get there in the end.