Raking

[Flipper]

Hello everyone.

I know this is a really basic question but I was wondering which the better technique for raking is. I got to pick some locks and padlocks but I'm not too sure I was doin it properly. So, I would like you to tell me the best procedure, which steps and so on.

Thank you

[zikmik]

The best technique is the one which open the lock/padlocks.

Everybody has their favorite method to use with their favorite tool, for raking two major ones are snake or S and Camel Back, or W rake
and depending on the quality of the lock along with wear and tear on it, it might be hard to nail down using only one metod.

Since picture/video say more than 100 words, my advice to you is to watch Lockpicking for the new millennium



Wher is properly describe rake technique and a litile bit more...

[Flipper]

Can I just ask which is your favourite one? What do you do?

[zikmik]

I use snake but as I heard that W rake is beter. The reason why I don`t have W rake is
because I use raking only as a part of SPP (single pin picking) while applying the right amount of tension.
On cheaper locks with no security pins (mushroom, spool or serrated) you can open faster by raking,
but no security pins locks are no longer common as use to be.

And your question `What do I do`
1. Put rake pick as far as can go in cylinder
2. Going in and out, up and down (combinate )
3. Applying the right amount of tension

[Flipper]

Ok thanks that is what I was thinking. BTW, I have posted something on the master140 a few hours ago. I find it a little bit difficult to see the plug counter rotating. I get into the false set but I can't find out which the spool pin is. I know this is a very easy padlock to pick but I've just started out...

[dougfarre]

Don't rake.

[Beyond]

Don't rake.

Don't assume what works for you will work for everyone else.

[melvin2001]

he's not really assuming. raking only works SOME of the time... and then it only works ever on cheap crappy locks. if people really want to get better they need not rely on raking. to avoid the frustration of popping a lock one day, and then not being able to pop it for a week with no clear reason why people should just not rake. not to mention it wears on the pins more and doesn't impress the ladies as much.

[Flipper]

Yeah I do think the same. I don't rely on raking for everything. I know SPP is way better. I think at least. I got into the false set with the 140 by spp it. But then...I told you what happen. I just mixed up two different topics hoping someone answers me...I've been told off for pm some of you (btw I'm sorry) Hope to get any andvice. Thank you all

[guest5999]

if you're using a S rake, that is the type of motion you should use with it. it gives a different kind of interaction when move it in an S shape as you move through the keyway. otherwise, it's the same action as using a sawtooth or bogota rake which are better suited for that type of raking.

[JB0311NY]

Don't rake.

LOL
you pro's crack me up....

[Wrenchman]

you pro's crack me up....

What I think he was trying to say was, that first of all, newbie's shouldn't
rake cuz they can't feel anything, and raking is also about feel, and
secondly because, once the spool pin has false set you can't rake it
open any longer, you need to spp, the fact that you can do this with
the rake doesn't matter it's still spp!

Don't rake.

Wrenchman

[bumber]

A way I try to find a security pis is to apply some tension, a little more than you need but not too much, and see which pin binds first or the easiest then I figure thats one or atleast where I should start...

So I try to see if when it binds how much it moves when I take a bit of pressure off, if you here it drop down when you let it go most of the time it means it was set...but not always which is why I only use this as a starting point on a new lock or pins.

[le.nutzman]

Raking, is like any other technique that you can and will learn if you stay with this. Yes, I'll agree it can and will open simple cheap locks in a relatively quick fashion. To this end, there are pros and cons of raking. The most common reason people will tell you not to rake has already been stated, you don't have feeling and feedback.

Raking isn't just putting the rake in and running it in and out multitude times. There's an art to it just like SPPing (Single Pin Picking). Bouncing the tension, working angles short rapid, long rapid, there's patterns here. All these things have been tried, and have worked at some point.

My point, it's going to be totally dependent on the lock. Despite what you do and try, there's a lock that all your tricks aren't going to work on and you're going to have to SPP the lock.

Things to take into consideration, lock brand, wear and tear of the lock, use of security pins, the type of the rake you're using, the lock tolerances. So many things come into play. But like anything else, like SPPing a lock, it's an art, all you can do is continue to try until your game is broken.