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Universal bump key!!!

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Universal bump key!!!

Postby pean » 1 Jan 2008 8:03

Has anyone considered making a "universal bump key"?
apart from destroying the whole art/sport of lock picking the major downside of bump keys as i see it is that you need the right key for the right lock. The principles of the bump key could be just as successful if modified, instead of having a bump key for each lock a small range of sort of hybrids between a bump key and a short pick that would fit almost any lock. something like a hacksaw blade cut to something like a key shape with the equivalent of the 99999 bump key shape cut into it would work as a bump key, make a few of these with variations on shape and size etc and u have a set of "bump picks" that would fit most locks. Has anyone something of a similar idea, I would be very interested for some feedback on what people think of the idea in terms of feasibility, or improvement of the idea.
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Postby linty » 1 Jan 2008 9:17

Many keyways such as American padlock (1045) and master lock (6000) are almost exact opposites. You'd have to make your universal key very small and put it above the warding which would make it almost impossible to bump it smoothly and straight enough to work.

That's the minor problem.

The major problem is that the depth and spacing of the pins in locks varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. You might have some success with a bump key that has a dozen or so peaks at the bottom but It would be more luck than anything.
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Postby freakparade3 » 1 Jan 2008 9:53

Well Adam we can't even call this plausable, myth busted.....
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snapper

Postby raimundo » 1 Jan 2008 11:27

design a snapper, (pickgun) that has a rack of bumps on it and is struck so that it bangs in or jerks out. shouldn't be hard to do, although the snappers as currently made do exactly the same thing to the pins that a bump key does, except they impart the force directly rather than through the cam slope.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 1 Jan 2008 16:23

Yeah I think you nailed it right there. Plus a pick gun will last longer than a bump key probably anyways.
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Postby gstrendkill » 1 Jan 2008 22:25

you might want to use "?"s in the title instead of "!"s next time

:wink:
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Postby jacknife » 5 Jan 2008 11:47

sounds nice but dont know if possible
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Postby freakparade3 » 5 Jan 2008 12:23

jacknife wrote:sounds nice but dont know if possible


Any bets how long it takes for this to be banned?
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Postby Proctor » 5 Jan 2008 14:21

freakparade3 wrote:
jacknife wrote:sounds nice but dont know if possible


Any bets how long it takes for this <censored> to be banned?


To me it seems like hes trying to get his post count up..lol
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Postby Eyes_Only » 5 Jan 2008 14:23

Well someone was gonna bring this up eventually anyways. :wink:
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Postby Beyond » 5 Jan 2008 14:34

Eyes_Only wrote:Well someone was gonna bring this up eventually anyways. :wink:


Yeah but I can't believe he didn't mull it over inside his head only to see the flaws in it.
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Postby gstrendkill » 12 Jan 2008 14:57

lol jacknife got owned.

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Postby jacknife » 12 Jan 2008 14:58

ok maybe im an idiot and i didnt read it...and yes post count up...oops
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Postby SnowyBoy » 7 Feb 2008 11:57

lol @ this thread.

It only requires about 2 braincells to actually visualize how this would not work :lol:

Ahhhh, some people eh.
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Postby dougfarre » 7 Feb 2008 16:51

Well, there may never be a universal bump key, but there is a universal bump key making machine! And you don't even need the correct key blank! This is the closest thing i can think of.
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