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by Guitar_J » 1 Jul 2004 1:13
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by Exodus5000 » 1 Jul 2004 10:26
Specifically which one of the tools, the special feeler? This Navigator set looks pretty nice, anyone have any comments on it who have tried it? (Also, they advertise the double ball pick as a spool pin pick??)
I"m also looking at the lab pick set.
http://www.lockpicks.com/index.asp?Page ... ProdID=326
Can anyone describe if this set is any better than a southord set, or if there are better lab pick sets out there?
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by zeke79 » 1 Jul 2004 11:01
I have both the brockhage and the lab set. They are both great sets and work well. I find the lab set to have an advantage on very restrictive keyways but they are also very fragile and would not stand up to abuse very well as they are very thin. The brockhage set on the other hand is more of an all pourpose set with a set of picks for dimple locks an assortment of hooks(some of which are made quite thick and i have not figured out why they do this), a wafer reader, a couple rackes which too are very thick, and probably a few that i forgot. The brockhage picks are some of the most comfortable i have used. It has an assortment of hooks(which is basiclly all i use) that will accomodate all but the most restrictive keyways where i would give the lab's the upper hand. I would also recommend the lab's over the southord slim lines which i also own as they are even slimmer and have enabled me to open locks i was unable to open with the southords because of the way the lock was pinned and the order in which the pins set. Sorry i cant give you a more definitive answer but I use each set for diferent pourposes. Hope this helps out a little bit.
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by FuSL » 1 Jul 2004 11:12
multipick sells a set of tools by souber
http://www.multipick-service.de/images/2330.gif
expensive :]
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viewtopic.php?t=1291&highlight=matador
that thread might help more..
to sum it up: get brockhage/souber/normal picks for the harder ones [pin in pin :], matador/normal picks for the easier ones :]
the one you posted should be "easy"..in a way... :]
you could try foil impressioning, too....
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by Eyes_Only » 1 Jul 2004 19:44
Dont bother with those expensive pick sets. If the lock's tolorance isnt too close or tight, you can use the dyno kwik pick to open those things. Ive got my AutoLock open a bunch of times with that simple tool, its thick and strong enough to move side to side and can be used to pick the pins on the top.
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by plot » 2 Jul 2004 3:35
i just ordered one of those :p
that's a steal..
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by PickPick » 3 Jul 2004 12:16
Eyes_Only wrote:If the lock's tolorance isnt too close or tight, you can use the dyno kwik pick to open those things.
I don't know how they are made in the US, but swiss made Kaba locks are very good locks, close tolerances, good craftmansship.
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by FuSL » 4 Jul 2004 15:10
some pics of the pics I've found.. and now some questions :]
do you insert them sidewards and lift the things by "turning" the pick, or the normal way and by lifting? I'm not sure if they'd fit the second way..... and on this it would depend if I'd make them myself or buy some.. :]
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by salzi684 » 6 Jul 2004 0:08
you rotate the picks to lift the pins.
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by FuSL » 6 Jul 2004 7:49
salzi684 wrote:you rotate the picks to lift the pins.
ok, thanks..
guess that makes making homemade dimple picks a little harder. maybe.
*starts saving money*
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by PickPick » 6 Jul 2004 11:05
Someone posted nice pictures of his homemade Matadors a while ago and while there's more to the Souber picks than what you see at first sight, a filed down half ball or half diamond can make a decent hook/lifter, too.
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by FuSL » 6 Jul 2004 11:12
PickPick wrote:Someone posted nice pictures of his homemade Matadors a while ago and while there's more to the Souber picks than what you see at first sight, a filed down half ball or half diamond can make a decent hook/lifter, too.
the matadors won't help I think, cause most dimple locks around here are those pin in pin ones.. :]
let's see if I get something working out of hacksaw blades.. :]
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by Chucklz » 6 Jul 2004 11:39
The Brockhage Navigator set ( www.lockpicks.com ) has dimple and what appears to to be pin in pin picks. Definately cheaper than the Souber set, and of course, you get the other picks as well.
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by FuSL » 7 Jul 2004 10:10
Chucklz wrote:The Brockhage Navigator set ( www.lockpicks.com ) has dimple and what appears to to be pin in pin picks. Definately cheaper than the Souber set, and of course, you get the other picks as well.
do you think there's a way of getting the dimple picks only?
hnm.. I should ask on that site... thanks :]
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