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Wafer Tumblers???

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Wafer Tumblers???

Postby csthomas » 26 Feb 2008 17:31

Ok... Now I've heard that you can pick wafer tumbler locks with pin tumbler lockpicks, I can't :oops: , but this is what I've heard; anyways I've also heard that you HAVE to have certain lockpicks??? If someone has picked a wafer lock with normal lockpicks WITH MORE THEN JUST LUCK please let me know, or if you know that you must have certain lockpicks also please inform me. Thank you.
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Re: Wafer Tumblers???

Postby Beyond » 26 Feb 2008 17:35

csthomas wrote:Ok... Now I've heard that you can pick wafer tumbler locks with pin tumbler lockpicks, I can't :oops: , but this is what I've heard; anyways I've also heard that you HAVE to have certain lockpicks??? If someone has picked a wafer lock with normal lockpicks WITH MORE THEN JUST LUCK please let me know, or if you know that you must have certain lockpicks also please inform me. Thank you.


You can use normal lock picks on wafer/disc tumbler locks. They're actually pretty easy to open.
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Postby csthomas » 26 Feb 2008 18:08

Ok now... can someone give me advise on how to open them with normal lockpicks???
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Postby linty » 26 Feb 2008 18:16

they are not fundamentally different to pick from pin tumblers. The surface area of the wafers is thin and wide so rounded picks work better. Generally these locks tend to have sloppy tolerances and it is easier to set wafers than pins. If you can pick a pin tumbler you should be able to pick a wafer lock in no time.
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Postby bockman » 26 Feb 2008 18:20

Yeah, I think half circle works well with wafers. Depending on how crappy the wafer lock is, it might be awkward to pick. The best thing to do pick a bit, see how the lock is (sometimes the lower pins get jammed up there) and restart if necessary. You won't need much torque either. I sometimes find wafers harder to pick because usually they're crappier than regular pin tumblers, and I don't pick them much.
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Postby csthomas » 26 Feb 2008 22:04

Hmmmmmmmm. Ya I keep tring but I'm having troble picking both sides of the lock. Would you guys suggest SPP or, raking or, some other method? Thank you very much for your replys. :D
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Postby Trip Doctor » 26 Feb 2008 22:53

Although I would suggest SPP for pin tumblers, I suggest raking for wafer locks. Some rakes with a half ball or a snoman pick should do it. What kind of wafer lock are we talking about here? A fairly basic one should be easy to pop open, but I believe there are also some high security ones that are really hard to pick. Is the lock used, gummed up?
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Postby eurolock fan » 27 Feb 2008 0:54

Try raking it with an S rake. Also are you talking about a normal wafer lock or a double sided wafer lock?
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Postby josh0094 » 27 Feb 2008 1:25

when i was servicing file continents i just took the flat back part of the half diamond so it was pretty much pushing down all the wafers and boom. there it was. that worked on all of them...
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Postby robert11 » 27 Feb 2008 2:51

yeah raking with S rake be helpful for you - try that
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Postby bumber » 27 Feb 2008 3:14

csthomas wrote:Ya I keep tring but I'm having troble picking both sides of the lock.


I could be wrong but this post leads me to think its double sided, but maby its open and he can get to it from both side?

Make sure you dont rake it really hard because you can bend the waffers.
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Postby linty » 27 Feb 2008 6:32

if it has wafers on the top and the bottom try getting a second tension wrench so you can start on one side, then put in the other tension wrench, take out the first one and pick the other side, rinse, repeat, and the lock should open after a few times.
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Postby csthomas » 27 Feb 2008 14:34

Yes I'm refering to double-sided wafers. I'll give all this advice a try and let you all know how it goes. Thank you much for replys.
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Postby josh0094 » 27 Feb 2008 16:34

linty wrote:,rinse, repeat, .


ya man cant forget that.
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Postby Trip Doctor » 27 Feb 2008 23:23

linty wrote:if it has wafers on the top and the bottom try getting a second tension wrench so you can start on one side, then put in the other tension wrench, take out the first one and pick the other side, rinse, repeat, and the lock should open after a few times.


Or, if you have a wishbone type, that will probably be the easiest to use.
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