Breaking Windows

[jimmyboy]

Which car models should you watch out for? -- I don't think I have yet to see a car in the US that "deadlocks" -- I am guessing these would all be high-end euro cars

[JB0311NY]

Mabye you should stop asking about drill bits and breaking windows and use your time to learn the proper way of doing things. If your answer to every job is a drill and a brick you won't get far as a locksmith.

... My first tools were a rock and Hilti.... I figured once I got in I could practice picking the lock all day...

[jaysonbernard]

Which car models should you watch out for? -- I don't think I have yet to see a car in the US that "deadlocks" -- I am guessing these would all be high-end euro cars

BMW.

[Varjeal]

7 years=no broken windows. If your breaking glass opening vehicles, stop opening vehicles, take your tools and spend a couple of solid days at the wreckers learning to do it right.

Barring extremely cold weather, or a sealed vehicle in extreme heat, there is NO reason to break glass on a vehicle.

Yes, there are deadlocking vehicles in the U.S. and 99% are high end vehicles. However, there is ALWAYS a way past the system, either through specialized pick tools to unlock the doors or other methods that are not discussed in public forums.

[beebo123]

Every commodore from the VT up can be "deadlocked" if you hit the lock button on the remote twice. By deadlocked I mean the lock/unlock button locks in place and can't be moved. But that is by no means un-bypassable and I assume the same for the deadlocks on the "high end euro's". Instacode and probably any good vehicle entry manual should be able to tell you how to bypass it.

[ponsaloti]

I've never heard of a car that cant be opened, here in england or anywhere else.

[Mutzy]

Every commodore from the VT up can be "deadlocked" if you hit the lock button on the remote twice. By deadlocked I mean the lock/unlock button locks in place and can't be moved. But that is by no means un-bypassable and I assume the same for the deadlocks on the "high end euro's". Instacode and probably any good vehicle entry manual should be able to tell you how to bypass it.

The Holden Commodore uses the HU43P two-track mechanism, pretty much exactly what the European Opel uses. There are ways to bypass the deadlocking function, but requires specialty tools and advanced forums access only...

Oh, and some of the newer model Commodores don't have any physical identification of deadlocking, as opposed to the earlier deadlocking ones where the key is turned 90 degrees to the side and removed.

[beebo123]

The Holden Commodore uses the HU43P two-track mechanism, pretty much exactly what the European Opel uses. There are ways to bypass the deadlocking function, but requires specialty tools and advanced forums access only...

Aren't Opel, Vauxhall and Holden the same thing different country?

Oh, and some of the newer model Commodores don't have any physical identification of deadlocking, as opposed to the earlier deadlocking ones where the key is turned 90 degrees to the side and removed.

Don't have a physical way of doing it, such at turning the key 90 degrees to the side and removing, meaning they can only be deadlocked by remote, or the button inside the car can still be moved unlike the eariler ones but just wont unlock the car when it is?

[caffn8me]

I've not broken a window but I have removed one by taking out the rubber seal. I was then able to unlock the car from the inside and refit the window and seal without damage. OK, breaking the window's quicker but I am sure the stranded motorist was very grateful that wasn't necessary. It's a whole lot less messy too.

[raimundo]

Someone in the UK or Europe, tell me, the deadlock function it unlocked by turning the key CCW to undeadlock then CW to unlock? that seems to be the concept I picked up reading the threads but that was long ago so Im not sure the details are correct.
And from reading the UK lockies, apparently overlifting and picking are the workaround for the deadlock.

do I have those details right? what else can you add?

[ponsaloti]

c/w, cc/w, it can depend on model of vehicle and what side of vehicle your on. no real hard and fast rule.

[WOT]

Is it not possible to originate a key by VIN using a code machine in your van?

[prag]

With my limited knowledge of deadbolts on cars are that once the deadbolt is activated, not even unlocking the car with a slimjim will open it.

My wife has a Toyota Verso and by depressing the remote twice will activate the deadbolt. Once this is activated, and even with the central locking button being depress, it will not open. The deadbolt action can only then be deactivated with the remote.

There are other ways.

[freakparade3]

Yes, their are other ways but we cannot discuss them here.

[parapilot]

Once deadlocked you need the remote, or to pick the lock, I will pick the lock 95% of the time anyway, looks more professional, does not scratch / damage the car, and its normally a 30 second opening on most locks, a few mins on laser track.

Some cars have little weaknesses but they tend to be electrical, and you can mess the car up if you get it wrong. enough said.

Last night some 'twit' decided to open my van up, using a brick. Got it open faster than i could i suppose! 1 Sat nav light at the mo, lucky the back was deadlocked as my tools and car programmers were in there!!!