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by eSTRICTLYFOREIGN » 25 Mar 2008 12:26
So I bought this cheap lock, to practice on, it is a knock off brand. So I picked it a few times and then I tried picking it again and some how no matter how the lock wouldn't open, I tried it with the key, and then the key wouldn't open it ether. I think that one of the tumblers got jammed in place.
The lock is a standerd (can't spell  ) 4 pin.
What should I do?
Thanks,
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by freakparade3 » 25 Mar 2008 12:30
Are you sure it's not a 4 wafer lock? If that is the case you bent or broke one of the wafers. If it's a 4 pin lock smack it on your bench a few times to try to loosen the jammed pin.
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by bumber » 25 Mar 2008 14:02
Is it a padlock or a door knob/deadbolt lock? If its the door type you can easily take it apart to solve your problem.
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by Abus » 25 Mar 2008 16:27
I've got a cheap 4-pin Taiwanese copy of a #3 master laminated padlock somewhere that jammed up while picking. Looking inside with an otoscope, it looks like a bottom pin actually dropped into the keyway and out of the lock, and the spring got into the shearline area. Even by putting the proper key in and tapping the outside with a hammer, I could not get it to turn. I did not try, but wondered if filing the spot on the key that corresponded to the jammed spring so that the top (driver) pin could drop well below shear line would have opened it.
I'll look to see if I can find it in one of my boxs o' locks.
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by bumber » 25 Mar 2008 17:54
In response to abus(- if the spring got into the shearline there is a VERY good chance turning it will only stretch the spring out(if it hasn't already) and just jam it up worse...sounds nasty at any rate 
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by Abus » 25 Mar 2008 21:21
(Sorry to hijack the thread)
On that particular lock, it was so severely jammed that I doubt anything could have saved it, and if eSTRICTLYFOREIGN has the same sort of cheap 4-pin lock, with the same sort of problem, he's probably out of luck.
The only other lock that I've had that got a spring in the shear-line was an american padlock, and I could, at least as I remember, get it picked somehow and apart. It is possible that I gave up and ground the retainer off.
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by Abus » 25 Mar 2008 21:22
(Sorry to hijack the thread)
On that particular lock, it was so severely jammed that I doubt anything could have saved it, and if eSTRICTLYFOREIGN has the same sort of cheap 4-pin lock, with the same sort of problem, he's probably out of luck.
The only other lock that I've had that got a spring in the shear-line was an american padlock, and I could, at least as I remember, get it picked somehow and apart. It is possible that I gave up and ground the retainer off.
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by eSTRICTLYFOREIGN » 25 Mar 2008 23:53
Well to answer some of your questions, it is not a wafer tumbler lock. It is a padlock.
It was a 2 dollar padlock, so I'm just going to replace it, haha...
But thanks anyway.
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by Abus » 26 Mar 2008 7:49
Since it is a $2 padlock,you might want to destructively dismantle it before pitching it, since you really don't have anything to loose if you can't get it apart or destroy it all together.
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by bumber » 26 Mar 2008 13:27
Also if there is nothing wrong with it, just jammed, after taking it apart you could try your hand at making a $2 cutaway...its good practice at those if nothing else.
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