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what Medeco lock does THIS key fit

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what Medeco lock does THIS key fit

Postby Squelchtone » 4 Apr 2008 9:46

We found a Medeco key in the safe at work today.

It is unmarked, no stampings, but the bitting appears to be a 3 pin biaxial.

The interesting part is the bow of the key is not a normal medeco square or circle. it looks like the key inserted into the M3 on Tobias's Insecurity page

take a look: http://security.org

It reminds me of the keys you get with a Ford van, where the spare/valet key has a much smaller bow on it, like a neutered bow.

Any idea what this little key might go to? we tried all the medeco cam locks in house and this key has different warding than our system.

maybe a Fireking cabinet? we do have those, but they're square and have Fireking stampings.

(I cannot post a pic, since it is a key in use. )

thanks for any tips.

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3pin m3?

Postby raimundo » 4 Apr 2008 9:49

Ive never seen a 3 pin M3, but I have seen some older three pin medeco keys that were pin twisting, these were keys to computer on off switches.

Of course, a 3 pin medeco is a good design downgraded for insecurity.
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Re: 3pin m3?

Postby Squelchtone » 4 Apr 2008 9:51

raimundo wrote:Ive never seen a 3 pin M3, but I have seen some older three pin medeco keys that were pin twisting, these were keys to computer on off switches.

Of course, a 3 pin medeco is a good design downgraded for insecurity.


Sorry, I know Tobias' pic is an M3, my key is non-M3, but the bow looks like that small rectangle with a curved edge.

thanks for that tip, it may belong to equipment no longer here.

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Postby Squelchtone » 4 Apr 2008 16:46

ok, here's a pic of the key, it is the top one.

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Anyone?

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Postby bumber » 4 Apr 2008 17:12

i doubt they exsist, but are there generic keys for medecos? or maby somehow another key that fits them? I dont know if there are...but I dont know that there are none either.... :? (sorry but i guess im no help :lol: )
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Postby Squelchtone » 4 Apr 2008 17:31

bumber wrote:i doubt they exsist, but are there generic keys for medecos? or maby somehow another key that fits them? I dont know if there are...but I dont know that there are none either.... :? (sorry but i guess im no help :lol: )


sure. I think both ILCO and US LOCK have generic keys.. the 5 pin original patent expired, so they have the MED5 and MED6 round head blanks.

you'll still need a Medeco or proper HPC cutter to make a key.

I'm hoping someone can ID this key =)

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Postby globallockytoo » 5 Apr 2008 0:17

Looks like DOM to me.
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Postby MBI » 5 Apr 2008 0:30

It's a medeco factory key, most likely for a file cabinet, althout it could be from a desk or other piece of furniture.

They come on a key ring with a little aluminum tag that has a blind key code and an address from where you can order replacements, right from the factory.

I know we were just talking about this in IRC Squelchtone, I hope you believe me now that I have a pic. The one shown below even has the same keyway as your key, so it's an off-the-shelf item, not a restricted keyway.

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Postby Squelchtone » 5 Apr 2008 0:37

MBI wrote:I know we were just talking about this in IRC Squelchtone, I hope you believe me now that I have a pic.



I donno man.. I guess it "kinda" looks like one in your pic..

:-P


Thanks for digging up the answer!

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Postby MBI » 5 Apr 2008 1:02

Sorry, I couldn't resist that little jab Squelchtone. When I told you in IRC that I had a key just like that and you said something like "No FREAKIN way man!", I just had to rub it in a little bit.

A bit of a coincidence though, I have to admit. I had completely forgotten about those old keys I had laying around, but after I saw the pic you posted something looked familiar so I started digging around and got lucky.
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Postby maxxed » 5 Apr 2008 9:34

The mystery key is very similar to ones I have from computer cases
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Postby DaWolfMan » 11 Apr 2008 12:08

squelchtone wrote:ok, here's a pic of the key, it is the top one.


Anyone?

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I actually have a couple of those myself, mine came from a case lock on an old PC tower. i kept them because i had never seen one like it before. but i have ran into a few more since then. it may also go to some file cabinet or storage device but the ones i had were for a PC Case Lock.

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Postby dosman » 11 Apr 2008 20:42

A 3 pin medeco key from an RS/6000 computer case (New stock, never used):
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And a 4 pin medeco payphone key (no longer in service), it appears to have been made to resemble the old Western Electric lock keys:
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Re: what Medeco lock does THIS key fit

Postby MacGnG1 » 4 Jul 2011 16:45

i think its a tufloc: http://esmet.com/tufloc-locks.html

they make hasps, lock boxes, file cabinets, weapon cases: http://www.tufloc.com/
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Re: what Medeco lock does THIS key fit

Postby MacGnG1 » 4 Jul 2011 16:51

oops here is what their standard key bows look like:
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