Got some Questions

[dougfarre]

bumber, vitti: The guy wants help picking his OWN lock on his OWN door? Whats the big deal? Even if it isn't his own lock, or his own door, he's still coming back, asking more questions. The majority of the newcomers make a post, fifteen people with nothing better to do come yell at them, then we never see that person again.

Bumper, when did you become the "don't-pick-locks-that-are-in-use-police"?
Instead of deterring other people from asking questions all the time, why don't you do something more productive, like by making a how to guide about picking mounted locks. You know, if you start learning on mounted, locks, and continue to learn on mounted locks, when your time comes to pick a lock, because maybe some strange reason your locked out of your home, then you wont have any trouble with it!

cdwag: if your picking that blue master lock, there really is no reason you could not pick your mounted schlage lock. Although the master lock behaves very differently from the KIK cylinder in the door, it should be a much more exciting experience.

Try this:
- Pull up a chair to the door, so you get comfortable.
- Without putting your tension wrench in the lock, use a feeler to find all the pins, push all of them up and down, so you know where they are.
- Put the tension wrench in the lock, apply clockwise tension (Just enough so you see the cylinder move just slightly)
- Put the hook back in the cylinder and find the Fing binding pin for god sakes. (If you dont know how to do that then shut the up and stop asking questions about picking locks in use)
-When you find the binding pin it should be harder to move then the rest of the pins. So slowly, I mean slowly move the pin up until you feel the pin set. Feeling a pin set is an amazing thing, its like popping open a can of fresh soda pop, or smelling a rose, or something along those lines.
- Do that like 4 more times.

Is that what you wanted to hear cdwag? Picking mounted locks is nothing special, I didn't tell you anything that isn't already written in like 1000 lockpicking tutorials. Now next time you ask a question on the forums, and somone tells you to shut up because there is already tons of resources out there to help you, then you will know to shut up. Not because your lock is in use (even though next time you will know not to tell us that the lock is in use because you remember what happens if you do that), but because everything you need to know is already available to you.

[Safety0ff]

Try this:
-Lock the door and/or make sure no one will open it on you...
- Pull up a chair to the door, so you get comfortable.
- Without putting your tension wrench in the lock, use a feeler to find all the pins, push all of them up and down, so you know where they are.
- Put the tension wrench in the lock, apply clockwise tension (Just enough so you see the cylinder move just slightly)
- Put the hook back in the cylinder and find the Fing binding pin for god sakes. (If you dont know how to do that then shut the <censored> up and stop asking questions about picking locks in use)
-When you find the binding pin it should be harder to move then the rest of the pins. So slowly, I mean slowly move the pin up until you feel the pin set. Feeling a pin set is an amazing thing, its like popping open a can of fresh soda pop, or smelling a rose, or something along those lines.
- Do that like 4 more times.

There, that's better.

[bumber]

I didnt mean for it to come off in a bad way, and if it did thats just how it is...i would rather him hate me and not break something than to be able to say..."well BumBer told me how to do it, so i tryed and I broke the lock and my house got robbed" Not that it makes it my fault that he broke the lock but now I could say I tryed to help him from doing that.....

[cdwag]

Try this:
-Lock the door and/or make sure no one will open it on you...
- Pull up a chair to the door, so you get comfortable.
- Without putting your tension wrench in the lock, use a feeler to find all the pins, push all of them up and down, so you know where they are.
- Put the tension wrench in the lock, apply clockwise tension (Just enough so you see the cylinder move just slightly)
- Put the hook back in the cylinder and find the Fing binding pin for god sakes. (If you dont know how to do that then shut the <censored> up and stop asking questions about picking locks in use)
-When you find the binding pin it should be harder to move then the rest of the pins. So slowly, I mean slowly move the pin up until you feel the pin set. Feeling a pin set is an amazing thing, its like popping open a can of fresh soda pop, or smelling a rose, or something along those lines.
- Do that like 4 more times.

There, that's better.

Thank you, I appreciate this post and I agree with you, although no matter how many times you guys would try to shut me up id be back.. some wouldnt. Thats the point of a forum, for HELP, not to shut people up and although the same repetitive questions get annoying, maybe once u answer them enough times the people who read the answer will answer it for the next person who asks it and you wont have to.

Everyone who posted was helpful and I appreciate it, thanks alot.. I'm off to try that lock!

[vitti]

I'll stick to my guns on this one.

Posts to a forum such as this are available for all to read. Giving advice on how to pick a lock in use would also remain on the site for all to read. People come here looking for information for all kinds of reasons. Some are innocent, some are not. In order to be fair and minimize the urge to judge someone's intentions, I adhere to the rules and relay them to those who never read them.

so again I say

[cdwag]

also, I second the fact the someone should put a mounted lock tutorial but include the fact that it must be your lock. I'm sure most of the people who come here who are new are actually looking to pick mounted locks since its a whole different experience and the outcome is so much more rewarding (this does not mean the outcome = breaking into someone elses house), breaking into your own house is actually quite interesting/fun

[bumber]

.....ALL he would have to said to me was ''ok so i ran and got the screwdriver and ripped that sucker out....now what'' and I might have posted something as long as doug's...but I aswell stand firm in my ways, and choose to help in this case....by not helping

[Safety0ff]

I'm still holding my tongue on this one, I was just making a correction to doug's post.

[unlisted]

also, I second the fact the someone should put a mounted lock tutorial but include the fact that it must be your lock. I'm sure most of the people who come here who are new are actually looking to pick mounted locks since its a whole different experience and the outcome is so much more rewarding (this does not mean the outcome = breaking into someone elses house), breaking into your own house is actually quite interesting/fun

Do you have any idea how many persons (try to) use this forum as a stepping stone for illegal activities? You would be VERY suprised if you had any idea.

The mods and admins here have enough time policing it as is, hence the reasons for some rules. We as a community decided its in the best interest of both the hobby and this site NOT to post some information.

This is also another reason why there is ADVANCED FORUMS.

If you searched you would more or less find what your looking for.. but we are not about to hold you hand and tell you exactly what to do.. Regardless if you were to use it for your own lock, on your own door, whos to say the next person who reads this thread would do the same?

[vitti]

best way to learn to pick mounted locks:

[JK_the_CJer]

vitti...that is one hot lockboard!

[vitti]

that's $8 worth of poplar from home depot. Had them cut it for me at the store. A ruler to equally space holes, a hole saw bit for the drill, 3 screws to hold it all together and 10 minutes is all it took.

Poplar is really soft and easy to work with.

[Kaotik]

I am considering this a closed subject. The OP got the answer he/she needed that the good morals and ethics from the majority of the members here will allow.

There are no Police here, but there are Moderators...concerning the 2 ethical statements......

1. Do not pick locks that are in use.
2. Do not pick locks that do not belong to you.

They have been here longer than most of us and they will continue to be, that's the way it is.