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by Dooms_day » 20 Apr 2008 14:04
well first i want to know if this would work for a tubular key, obvioulsy it would need a slight modification and some soldering skills
but i also want to know what anyone has come up with as the best polymer that will not shrink/expand or morph while drying. i dont want to get anything too expensive but if clay or playdough doesnt work i can always make something
i am making this mainly for tubular keys so i dont want it to get stuck in the hole so the original key wont work! 
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by freakparade3 » 20 Apr 2008 14:26
Why would you need to do this for tubular keys? I really don't think it will work anyway.
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by Squelchtone » 20 Apr 2008 15:12
Dooms_day wrote:i am making this mainly for tubular keys so i dont want it to get stuck in the hole so the original key wont work! 
you know, a Coke only costs 85 cents in the machine, and maybe $1.00 for a King size Snickers, so is there really a need to raid the machine by impressioning a key for it?
of course, if thats not what you're up to, just ignore my comments.

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by LP_Sean » 26 Apr 2008 18:07
Why not use Silly Putty? It doesn't dry out like play-dough does. Is it too sticky or cant handle liquid solder?
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by Safety0ff » 26 Apr 2008 18:36
LP_Sean wrote:Why not use Silly Putty? It doesn't dry out like play-dough does. Is it too sticky or cant handle liquid solder?
If you're going for something that doesn't dry up there's synthetic clay. Look it up. One brand I know makes it is alumilite.
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by dougfarre » 26 Apr 2008 20:39
Synthetic Clay? Last time I checked I have been using the same piece of green clay to make my impressions over, and over again. I don't even keep it in a plastic bag when I am not using it, I just close it off in a dark place.
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by Safety0ff » 26 Apr 2008 20:50
Nevermind about synthetic or not. Most clays stay pliable until baked.
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by Kaotik » 26 Apr 2008 22:20
dougfarre wrote:Synthetic Clay? Last time I checked I have been using the same piece of green clay to make my impressions over, and over again. I don't even keep it in a plastic bag when I am not using it, I just close it off in a dark place.
Sounds to me like an oil based clay similar to Kleen Klay - A non-drying modeling clay. I tried this but it didn't hold up to the high temperatures of the alloy. The oil seemed to sizzle and deform the mold.
Would you be more specific about what kind of clay you are using instead of just "Same piece of green clay" please?
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by dougfarre » 7 May 2008 21:00
Yea, it came with the lockmaster's clam kit and its green  There is some clay at walmart in the art/craft area with all different colors and they had similar consistency and feel. On the box it said non-drying. I imagine it would behave the same.
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by freakparade3 » 8 May 2008 7:09
The non drying clay available at wal-mart works to make yout kit but must be sealed up. I found after a month or so it was to dry to work with and had to start over.
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by Dooms_day » 9 May 2008 18:50
hey lol if i was trying to get a coke, and i had the key to impression...id just get it copied, i just want to learn how to do the impressioning and want to know if its possible on a tubular lock, i see impressioning a pin tubler the clay-way as pointless because you can either pick it, or do the blank key method
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by Kaotik » 9 May 2008 22:53
Dooms_day wrote:hey lol if i was trying to get a coke, and i had the key to impression...id just get it copied.
With that statement you seem to be asking for trouble. Besides, if you do have the key you must be a legit vendor? Then I ask " What would be the point in making a copy of a key you already have and have a reason to possess"?
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by Safety0ff » 10 May 2008 5:27
Kaotik wrote:With that statement you seem to be asking for trouble.
The coke comment originaly came from Squelchtone's comment above on this page: Squelchtone wrote:you know, a Coke only costs 85 cents in the machine, and maybe $1.00 for a King size Snickers, so is there really a need to raid the machine by impressioning a key for it?
of course, if thats not what you're up to, just ignore my comments.
Kaotik wrote:Then I ask " What would be the point in making a copy of a key you already have and have a reason to possess"?
I'd make a copy of a key I already have a reason to possess simply to see if I can and to see how the results compare to the original key... Dooms_day wrote: i see impressioning a pin tubler the clay-way as pointless because you can either pick it, or do the blank key method
Now why'd you have to go and say that? Just try and think of the possibilities where this could be useful (broken keys, temporary copies, James Bond style scenarios  .)
To answer your question, yes it would work, and probably better than with inline pin tumbler locks. I'd recommend using something else to provide the tension if you're worried about it getting stuck (like do the impression and cut out the tensioner part of the key and use a small hex/allen to turn it (you might have to grind it square if it doesn't fit.)

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by Kaotik » 10 May 2008 11:32
Hmmm, I guess nobody knows sarcasm anymore. 
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by raimundo » 11 May 2008 8:14
Sarcasm, satire, cynicism, Umm, Im skeptical.
This chasm may be a wormhole.
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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