Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

So many Mortice locks... :?

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
Forum rules
Do not post safe related questions in this sub forum! Post them in This Old Safe

The sub forum you are currently in is for asking Beginner Hobby Lock Picking questions only.

So many Mortice locks... :?

Postby doobuzz » 8 Jun 2008 8:04

Most of the guides here are to do with picking cylinder deadbolts, yet I’m struggling to even get hold of one in the UK (ok, maybe not struggling but there are very few compared to other types of lock). Are cylinder deadbolts more popular in the United States?
doobuzz
 
Posts: 2
Joined: 6 Jun 2008 14:53

Postby unlisted » 8 Jun 2008 8:40

Your last question basically is your answer..

Also, there is allot f information on other types of locks, take a look around. If you don't see info on it, create a new thread and post your findings.

:D

Oh and welcome.
New user? Click HERE & HERE & HERE
unlisted
Moderator Emeritus
 
Posts: 3131
Joined: 27 May 2006 0:42
Location: Canada

Postby steve0527 » 8 Jun 2008 12:53

Look under Eu locks, picks and hardwear forum you might have luck there.
Image
steve0527
 
Posts: 237
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 1:28
Location: London/Barrie ontario Canada

Postby Eyes_Only » 8 Jun 2008 13:18

Cylinderical deadbolt locks are more popular here in the States but mortise style locks (ones using pin tumbler mortise lock cylinders) are gaining popularity lately.

A lot of home owners that goes through re-modeling and renovations tends to go the extra mile and upgrade to a mortise set up. We get called out to service them maybe twice a week or so.
If a lock is a puzzle, then its key is the complete picture
Eyes_Only
Supporter
Supporter
 
Posts: 4111
Joined: 17 Dec 2003 20:33

Postby David_Parker » 8 Jun 2008 15:22

Yes, cylindrical locks are THE standard in the US for most applications. This started because of Walter Schlage designing the first cylindrical lock around the 1920s.

Now the reason this type of lock became so popular is simple. A mortise lock requires an individual to drill the center of the door, and chisel out most of the wood to fit an 8" tall by 1" wide lock into the middle of the door. Image

Where as a cylindrical lock requires drilling a 2 1/8" hole and mortising out an area for the spring latch. Now which do you think was easier with heavy corded tools of the 1920s?

Now, in terms of picking them, they're all the same. They still use pin tumbler mechanisms. The difference being a tailpiece. Thats all. A company called Lori makes something called a Lori Deadbolt which uses Mortise cylinders for their applications. Maybe you can get a hold of those and use them on your mortise lock stands for practice.



-Dave.
Never underestimate the half-diamond.
David_Parker
 
Posts: 307
Joined: 22 Jul 2003 3:16
Location: DFW, TX

Postby doobuzz » 8 Jun 2008 16:14

Cheers, that’s extremely useful - I was beginning to wonder if I was missing something crucial!
doobuzz
 
Posts: 2
Joined: 6 Jun 2008 14:53


Return to Got Questions? - Ask Beginner Hobby Lockpicking Questions Here

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests

cron