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starter/practice locks..

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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starter/practice locks..

Postby kidkawaii » 11 Jun 2008 11:44

i've tried looking around the site trying to find an answer to this but ive found nothing too conclusive on buying 'practice cylinders vs specific makes of locks'

if the fact i've made only a couple posts doesnt give away my newbie status then allow me to state again - i live in canada, am new at this, just grabbed a southord (PXS-14) set of picks and need something to practice on.

ive seen a small handful of locks being recommended (wouldnt hurt to have a couple more posted here) but was wondering what the pros/cons of buying a 30$ practice cylinder was over an 8$ lock?
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Postby jpb06080 » 11 Jun 2008 12:00

I think you're best off just going to your local locksmith and asking for something to practice on. The only nice thing about practice locks is that they tend to be very easy. Great for confidence.
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Postby apb » 11 Jun 2008 12:32

My experience with the practice cyinders where you can see the pins setting as you pick was pretty disappointing. I bought a practice cylinder from lockpicks.com and it was 50 bucks. I wanted to move to a higher skill level and learn to pick security pins better so I purchased one with 5 spool driver pins. Well this was probably the easiest lock I had in my collection. I raked it maybe three times and it was open. The security pins would not false set (which was what I wanted to work on) so it was no different than a normal lock cylinder with sloppy tolerances only about 15 times more expensive. Also,the tolerance in the lock and the pins themselves did not seem to have the same feedback as a "real" lock. It was difficult to feel the pins setting. It was too easy and hard to find the binding pin. I probably could have sneezed into the lock and set a couple of pins. IMHO these practice locks give a beginner false confidence in their skills. One of the most important things you are trying to learn is gainng the correct tension and finding the binding pins through feel alone. I did find a use for the practice cylinder though. Once, I removed their pins and replaced two ofthe spool pins with normal drivers, it would false set and it has its use as a visual aid. That's it though. Get a kwiskset or schlage dealbolt. The schlage may have security pins as drivers which you can replace with normal pins and when you are ready to learn security pins the schlage works well for that also.
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Postby l618 » 11 Jun 2008 12:48

It's not really possible to advise specific brands or locks. I suppose in a beginner stage the best thing to do is just to get your hands on as many locks as you can and have a go at them. An el-cheapo cylinder that can be disassembled and repinned with less pins is good practice too. And as apb said, don't buy those practice locks. They're just not worth the money.
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Postby Jaakko » 11 Jun 2008 13:02

It would be nice if you filled your location to your profile, so it would be easier to give advice. Different areas of the world have different locks and thus it is quite hard to give anything specific.
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