American 1105 disassembling problem

[andrew_canada]

Where to start? I want to get the cylinder out so i can start training picking it.
I don't have the key, as you see its locked. Any advice will help.





Thank you)

[Jaakko]

You have to open it first and under the shackle you willfind a reatining screw. Or you drill that circular piece from the bottom, which is more than hard.

[andrew_canada]

You have to open it first and under the shackle you willfind a reatining screw. Or you drill that circular piece from the bottom, which is more than hard.

Ok, Thanks, will try

[l618]

You can't get it open without picking it first, as Jaakko said. Good luck

[andrew_canada]

Well...it was actually pretty easy, but i found another way...
At first i was drilling like crazy trying to get that bottom part out, had to let cool down couple of times , but then i tried drilling on the lock side, i could clearly see the screw inside, so i cut it in half and pushed it out with the screwdriver...
here's results:

the big hole on the bottom is not necessary, all you need is to make a cut in the middle of the lock and a hole right under the cut, the whole screw comes out. The funny part is that its still locked, but now it should be easy
Thanks!

[l618]

Not the prettiest solution, but I'm glad it worked

[andrew_canada]

Not the prettiest solution, but I'm glad it worked

not quite i got no key and i still have to pick it... the cylinder is out but locked by pins inside

[steve0527]

you could of picked it in the lock, than when you got it picked, you could unscrew it but your way works to. Not to nice but it works lol.

[raven252000]

are the ports on the bottom open if so you could use a stiff wire if it will go up to the pins and pick it like a tubular lock.

[keysman]

Good directions and a breakaway drawing here:
http://www.americanlock.com/A-004_Servi ... l_2007.pdf

[Safety0ff]

I'm not gonna lie, it looks like an outright hack job.
A bump key might have been a more elegant way to go. (? Elegant use for the bumpkey ?! )

[.45cal]

I would have practiced on other locks until I had the skill to pick this one. You can never use this lock again . Hopefully you lean a lot form this lock so you wont have to take such drastic measures in the future.

[Jaakko]

I would have practiced on other locks until I had the skill to pick this one. You can never use this lock again . Hopefully you lean a lot form this lock so you wont have to take such drastic measures in the future.

He can still pick the cylinder, so I don't see a problem.

[hydruh]

He can still pick the cylinder, so I don't see a problem.

Sometimes you just want to USE a lock, ya know? This one, not so much!

S

[ToolyMcgee]

For furture reference on the american lock website they have pdf's diagramming the different keyways, dissassembly procedures, parts lists. That poor lock.