For DIY'ers with bigger ambitions than machine shops.

by **logosys** » 20 Jul 2004 12:51

I imported a 15 ksi composite block from a vertical tree into the program and they quoted me at $22,561,152.86

I'd almost do it, but that extra .86 just hits me where it hurts....

by **logosys** » 20 Jul 2004 12:54

Z3R0 wrote:ok ...... one questoin ... who is going to make it happen ? perhaps a moderator? if theres anything i can help do to help let me know. i also have looked @ that companies machines that they have ... they have alot of stuff to work with .. if its possible try having it machined by "waterjet"

if you would like to learn more about the "waterjet" machine clik the link below
http://www.emachineshop.com/machines-kerf/water-jet-cutting.htm

No, you would want lockpicks stamped and finished.

by **Z3R0** » 20 Jul 2004 13:27

... y not waterjet afterwards ... maybe get them heattreated .. to make them harder.

and waterjet does just as good as laser or anyother cutting tool w/o having singes,nicks, and burn marks, etc. so you wont have to put it in the finishing proccess.

by **Hak** » 20 Jul 2004 13:44

not neccessarily (<-- spelling?), waterjet may be good, but i prefer drilling. in my workshop (my garage, heh) i have a drill that is controlled by computer, all i have to do is enter into the computer what i want and it'll engrave it into just about anything i want. It has full range of motion so it can engrave literally anything i want, from the letter A, to a picture of Romstars face :shock:

I rarely have anything i want to engrave so i hardly ever use it. Right now its sitting in my workshop unplugged, i havent used it in about 2 years.. hell it might not even work anymore. Hmm... i think ill go reboot it, see if it works.. :idea:

by **Hak** » 20 Jul 2004 14:06

hah! it does still work, it took about 5 minutes for it to start up. I have to fix a few things on it.. and the computer model and programs are a bit outdated.. heh it still uses windows 95.. and it has a freaking pentium 3 processor

I think after about a week or two..my friend and i will have it looking like brand new and working better than ever. I'll buy a whole new computer system for it, (about $1000) that'll take a week to arrive, and my friend will reprogam the drilling sequences or whatever (i really dont know what he does..hes a nerd and hes really good at computer hacking and programming and i know almost nothing about it... but i know about 'steel bolt hacking' and he doesnt

). Overall it'll cost about $1500.. and it'll take about 2 weeks. I really dont even know why im doing this, i rarely use the thing.. but whatever, it gives me something to do. :wink:

by **Z3R0** » 20 Jul 2004 17:16

.... dont buy another system ..build one ...and wat do u have against comptuer nerd/geeks?

im one myself

by **Z3R0** » 20 Jul 2004 17:17

and besides .... we're talking about a company ... incase u havent read all the posts...

by **Chucklz** » 20 Jul 2004 18:03

Why would you even need a Pentium 3 to run a CNC machine. Ive used a CNC lathe that runs off an 8086.

by **CaptHook** » 20 Jul 2004 18:33

Alot of machines use pc's as their controllers. Depending on the CAM software he has, may take a pentium, cant imagine a pentium 3 though. And Hak, chances are its a milling machine.

Chuck

by **WhiteHat** » 20 Jul 2004 18:50

just a thought....

it's still cheaper to buy the non-handled picks via southord unless you do
runs of 1000 or more using this company.

the only advantage is that you can make picks that southord doesn't have
such as finer gradients of hook or wacko rakes, or deep curve hooks or
anything else... still, you'll need to sell 1000 to make it worth while unless
people are prepared to pay exorbitant prices for specialised picks.

I guess if we did charge exorbitant prices we should name the company
something like "ninja self-defence spy magic shop" to combine all the
high priced web stores in existance. the slogan could be "We charge more
therefore we must be better".... ok, I'm rambleing now... :oops:

by **Chucklz** » 20 Jul 2004 19:44

Oh the CNC machine I was talking about was run by a computer. An OLD IBM 8086 processor, monochrome monitor, no hdd...

by **CaptHook** » 20 Jul 2004 19:50

Did you manually program with g-codes prep functions? Im guessing with that system, the only cam that would run would be nitecam.
Chuck

by **Chucklz** » 20 Jul 2004 22:08

It was an interesting system. Custom software for the lathe. You had to chart out your cuts beforehand. (It was a wood lathe). Probably easier and quicker to cut a single spindle if thats all you need.

by **Luke** » 21 Jul 2004 2:39

Well 14 carat pick handles how wasteful.

by **Hak** » 21 Jul 2004 13:33

I dont have anything against nerds/geeks, i think they are cool. The guy im talking about is my friend. And i havent really read every post.. i sorta just skimmed through them

The only reason the thing has a pentium in it is becuz i bought the computer system from some kinda liquidation blow-out sale at some weird store. I never really needed the thing, just felt like buying it, it was only $50..i thought maybe i could use it for something eventually. Well.. some time later my friend saw it and came up with the idea of making an engraving machine (he thought maybe we could make a profit by charging people by engraving stuff for them,. i didnt really want to though). I thought maybe i could use one.. so he took the computer and did some stuff to it (programming and stuff, i really have no clue), and i went out and got some machinery for it. Overall it took maybe about a month to completely build the system.

The old system was pretty good, but it was a tad bit slow drilling so it took a while to engrave anything. The new system will hopefully be much faster. Instead of buying a new computer, my friend wants to build it. He says that an already built computer might not really have exactly what we want and if we build one we can completely integrate our own parts. But he also says if we build our own..the budget might be a bit higher.
Hmm.. what do you guys think? Should we build our own.. or buy a system? And if you think buy a system, any recommendations?

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