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Legality question...or questionable legality

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Legality question...or questionable legality

Postby bosadabiz » 24 Jun 2008 23:10

So I'm sure this has been brought up before....but I'm curious.....

Most lockpick tool sites say that the person buying the product must be able to provide some proof that they are pro locksmiths, repo men, law enforcement, etc. I have only found one site that specifically states that they will also sell to homeowners. I've never bought picks online; it's always been through some other source and thus has legality has never been much of an issue. So what I'm wondering about, are all of us amateur lockpickers legally screwed? Or are they really going to make a huge deal about it if someone outside that category buys their product? I know for a fact it isn't illegal to own a set of lockpicks so long as there is no illegal intent or use of them. So it really shouldn't be an issue right?
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Postby Schuyler » 24 Jun 2008 23:32

Not for nothing, but this is a pretty common question around these parts. Most of us just tell you to make sure it's ok to own lockpicks in your own community. The site owners are simply trying to cover their own butts. Be responsible with your tools and go ahead with the purchase, you won't have any problem.
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Postby bosadabiz » 24 Jun 2008 23:34

grazzie. That's the straightest answer I've ever gotten.
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Postby Schuyler » 24 Jun 2008 23:35

bosadabiz wrote:grazzie. That's the straightest answer I've ever gotten.


And that's the nicest thing I've heard all day.
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Postby bosadabiz » 24 Jun 2008 23:38

That's a sad statement...
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Postby wolfie » 25 Jun 2008 10:36

just always be sure to check your local/state laws too so your fully in the clear =3
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Postby David_Parker » 25 Jun 2008 17:49

And remember: "WITH GREAT POWER, COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY!"


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Postby bosadabiz » 25 Jun 2008 18:26

that last post almost makes me sorry I started this thread
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Postby freakparade3 » 25 Jun 2008 18:35

bosadabiz wrote:that last post almost makes me sorry I started this thread


Why is that?
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Postby Schuyler » 25 Jun 2008 19:01

He hates capped italics
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Postby bosadabiz » 25 Jun 2008 19:13

well that....and over used movie quotes...
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Postby MacGnG1 » 25 Jun 2008 23:17

south ord says that if the billing and shipping address are not the same they will request proof, unless its a college mail box or something like that.
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Postby Servalite6354 » 10 Jul 2008 18:09

I've bought picks online and mail order.......never has anyone asked for any proof that I'm a locksmith, though I have seen that in other catalogs - which I didn't order from.

Most of what I've seen is an agreement that all liability passes to the buyer, and it's the buyer's responsibility to make sure the picks aren't used for nefarious purposes.

That's the way it should be really, it's like firearms. Full responsibility is in the hands of the end-user, not the supplier or the manufacturer.
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Postby E1001 » 20 Jul 2008 19:56

Servalite6354 wrote:I've bought picks online and mail order.......never has anyone asked for any proof that I'm a locksmith, though I have seen that in other catalogs - which I didn't order from.

Most of what I've seen is an agreement that all liability passes to the buyer, and it's the buyer's responsibility to make sure the picks aren't used for nefarious purposes.

That's the way it should be really, it's like firearms. Full responsibility is in the hands of the end-user, not the supplier or the manufacturer.


Yea its a shame not all places do that though. I was on the HPC website looking to buy some of their picks, but you need to be a licensed security professional to buy from them. Too bad, I wanted to see how their picks compare to the southord ones I have.
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