Master #130

[Newbpika]

i just started reading about picking last night on this site while browsing, i took a clip from a pen and fashioned a t/w, then put a 45* bend at the end of a nappy pin. I picked up the first padlock in the house put them in and bang within 10 seconds it was open, was i chuffed! i could really get into this i thought then i picked up the other padlock the master 130 and am now wondering with the 140 having safety pins does this one too? its a hell of a lot harder i can feel pins setting but am unsure wether there false set or not complete newb 1st day any help thanks

[Newbpika]

does anyone know if they are security pins or am i doing something wrong should i get another lock without security pins or have i already got one?

[hydruh]

Here is a thread about the pins in paster locks:

viewtopic.php?t=23712

The 130 isn't on that initial list, but since the 121 has them, and the 140 has them, I would imagine that the 130 has them. Probably 2 spool pins.

I would advise that you get a Kwikset cylinder and do DB's beginner exercises in the General section.

S

[apb]

You should also get a set of real picks if you don't have them. Here's a good starting point. Even a small four piece set is better than makeshift tools if you're starting out. Otherwise you may frustrate yourself away from the hobby.

http://www.southord.com/index.htm

[Archive555]

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The standard sets you buy from them are SouthOrd anyway.
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Hope it helps,
-Archive

[Newbpika]

yeah thanks i plan on buying a normal lock soon and picks even though this 130 is frustrating me i am enjoying the hobby have opened a few cheapo pad locks with my ghetto tools but plan on making some soon im in australia and not too sure about laws ect. but have okay metal working skills and plenty of old hacksaw blades lying around so home made is probabily better for me thanks again newb

[ToolyMcgee]

yeah thanks i plan on buying a normal lock soon and picks even though this 130 is frustrating me i am enjoying the hobby have opened a few cheapo pad locks with my ghetto tools but plan on making some soon im in australia and not too sure about laws ect. but have okay metal working skills and plenty of old hacksaw blades lying around so home made is probabily better for me thanks again newb

The 130, 140, 150 Masterlocks are all basically the same except for their size. So, the reason you are getting frustrated is because your 130 has a spool or two and probably a serrated pin. I've taken a couple 140's apart and never found a regular pin, although I hear they can have them. Hope this helps.

[Newbpika]

yeah thanks mate i guessed that was the problem ive picked all the other 4 pin ecomony masters i have lying around from shallow grooves to deep ones am really startin to enjoy this gonna buy a reykeyable deadbolt today to start some of digital blues exercise as already adviced i started making a half diamond and rake last night from hacksaw blades figures my hooked pin would still surfice for the hook for now any other picks you suggest i should make? only what ill need for now because i will make or purchase some decent ones as i progress into the hobby more thanks newb

[ToolyMcgee]

The only picks I had for the first few months were my short hook, snake rake, and half diamond. I ditched my saftey pin the second I had a hacksaw blade, and I would suggest you do the same. One blade can make three picks, and if you don't feel ambitious enough for the snake, a half snowman, or standard ball can work in place I would think. The main problem I had when I was just starting was I never seemed to have the right tension wrench. I have always hated the hacksaw blade kind, and I busted up a few over tensioning them with my hex key homemade lock busting tensioner. Wiper blades are great for tensioners. Street cleaner bristles are on this site alot too, but my town uses nylon ones, so I couldn't say anything about them.

So, hook, half diamond, then snake or equivalent, and a few tension wrenches. There are posts about this all over this site. Seek them out if you still feel unfulfilled. If you don't know what size you want your tools or are just curious there is a sticky thread in the manual lockpicks section with pick templates. I could post the link, but I'm sure you can find it without my help. Peace out.

[Newbpika]

thanks i was given a new whitco profile double cylinder (dunno how to post pics?) from a friend today its 5 pin no security pins the type used on screen doors the 3rd pin from the front is really big and hard to pic behind to the smaller 2 i removed the back 2 and can open the 3 easy im gonna put the big pin at the very back and see if i can do all 5 its easy to fet to the pins just 2 screws and the cap comes off revealling all 10 holes and pins still using my nappy pin (been out all day and its dark now) but will finish the half diamond and others tomorow