Tubular....

by **Marhi** » 16 Oct 2003 7:50

Hey guys I just registered to this forum, it's kinda neat

Well, I will be starting with tubular lock picking soon... When my pick arrives...
This one:

So I was wondering.... does anyone have any experience with this pick and is it complicated.
Any tips welcome.

by **DrDave** » 16 Oct 2003 11:16

My "Cheap" ($70-USD) 8-Pin South-Ord Pick broke.... I too bought this one, the 8-Pin Type.

There is ALOT of "Tubular Picking info all over this site...

Here are some links to other pg's on this site:
viewtopic.php?t=349

viewtopic.php?t=276

viewtopic.php?t=393

viewtopic.php?t=65

And the List... Just keeps on coming!!! (Old Radio joke)

DrDave-USA

by **Varjeal** » 16 Oct 2003 11:18

That looks an awful lot like the HPC tubular pick that I own. I've used it a fair bit and it's probably the simplest picking tool to use when adjusted properly.

To use this tool properly, start by pressing the silver ring closest to the handle downward to push the feelers to their fullly extendend position.

Insert the tool into the lock straight. Then, gently press and twist the tool slightly in a clockwise manner. Do NOT rock the tool from side to side or up and down! This will press the feeler picks in (towards the handle) further than they should go.

Continue this motion until the lock opens or all the feelers are absurdly pushed inwards. If this occurs, reset the tool to its starting position and try again.

Once you have picked the lock, you can tighten the knurled nut and using a decoding key (that was provided with my tubular pick) you can then take the "code" and cut an original key for the lock.

Beginner's note: Please do not adjust the knurled nut until you gain proficiency in the use of the pick. This nut defines the "tension" placed on the feeler picks and defines how much hand pressure is required to put tension on the pins in the lock.

Hope this helps. Out of curiousity, how much did you pay for this tool?

Don't forget to post your experience with this tool and any tips you may learn on its use.

by **Marhi** » 16 Oct 2003 12:46

Yey I got it!

I must try it somewhere tomorrow, because I do not own anything with a tubular lock in it.
Tubular lock are hard to obtain in Slovenia. They are mostly used for game and vending machines.
And I have seen them on parking lot pay machines.
I paid $109 for it at www.lockpicks.com

Varjeal: It is a HPC tool

When I got it I said to myself: "WOOOW! What a sexy pick!"
So if I understand properly... I should press the ring down to extend all the feelers,
press the feelers a bit in on a straight surface, then pust the tool into a lock and twist clockwise. So... do I have to push and twist it at the same time, or fist push and then twist.

And thanks for the reply so quickly.

by **Varjeal** » 16 Oct 2003 12:56

I've got too much free time on my hands, and sometimes I need a distraction from boring paperwork (comes from owning your business) but your welcome anyways.

Yup, you got it. You will want to push and twist at the same time, when you get close you will be able to feel the lock wanting to turn. Make sure that you lock the feelers in place when the lock turns, or you will have to reset and pick the lock in the opposite direction.

I highly recommend using any lockpick tools in a LEGAL manner, so I would suggest you shop for a tubular bike lock, which would make good practice. There are other types used on cabinets, etc. Just keep your eyes open when your out and about.

Happy picking, and don't forget to post your experiences and tips in here for others too. As always, if you have questions, don't hesitate to ask.

by **Marhi** » 17 Oct 2003 7:25

Today I tried it... I called a friend whose father owns a pub and they have all sorts of game machines with tubular locks in it... And thougt I'd ask him if I can practise a bit on those game machines... But he did not pick up the phone...
And I must say.. I was very tempted to try this pick... So I went to a parking lot...
I Inserted the tool and started with the pushing and twisting... But it didn't work...
I thought... If everything in our city is so different, maybe I should pick it in the counter clockwise direction.
I insert the tool... twist and push a few times... and *pooof* the lock turned... I tightened the collar and locked it back.

I didn't steal anything

(I'm too rich to be stealing that parking lot change

)
It truly is a great and simple tool.

by **Chubby** » 17 Oct 2003 9:34

Does anyone have experience with the Peterson PRO 1 or any similiar tubular pick of the same standard...
http://www.lock-picks.com/details/pro-1.htm

by **Varjeal** » 17 Oct 2003 9:59

I should mention that tubular locks are not always picked to the C.W. position. They are like any other cam-lock, and the direction to turn depends on how the latch on the back of the lock is required to operate.

Many of these cam locks were designed for multi-use, and depending on the type of latch being used, the lock may be designed for 90, 180, 270, or 360 turning in either direction.

by **Marhi** » 17 Oct 2003 15:16

I went to another parking lot machine and tried it...
It didn't work... The feelers are pushed too far back... maybe I should tighten the collar more, or apply more pressure...
With the first lock all I have to do is push the pick in and rotate.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong... I'll just wait and buy a tubular lock and practice at home

by **Varjeal** » 17 Oct 2003 15:19

The collar adjusts how much pressure is necessary to move the feelers. As you gain experience with it, you can adjust it according to the amount of pressure that you want to put on.

If the feelers get pushed too far back, you'll just need to reset and try again.

Best of luck and keep us posted.

by **rAWTAZ** » 17 Oct 2003 17:36

i have a little question regarding these tubular locks in general.. im a total newbie and dunno anything specific about the matter, but ive seen some here and there, in equipment and other stuff.

anyhow, of the ones ive seen this far, many of them have a different diagonal distance of the main ring. how does this impact the use of the tool mentioned in this thread, for example? is it adjustable?

thanks :)

by **Varjeal** » 17 Oct 2003 17:56

Could you explain a little bit more about what your asking. Are you asking about the notches in the ring where the key is inserted?

If so, this determines the direction the lock must be turned to lock or unlock it.

If this is unclear, please repost and explain a bit more.

Thanks.

by **Darek84CJ** » 17 Oct 2003 19:47

Nice buy man! Keep us updated with your progess

by **misspent youth** » 18 Oct 2003 10:37

of those of you who own tubular picks, what is the life span of these picks, and how easily do they break? IM interested in buying one, but since they can only be ordered online, i have no way of knowing what im putting my money down on. Any info is greatly appreciated.

by **Varjeal** » 18 Oct 2003 10:41

Depends on the quality of materials and construction.

The one I own is pictured in the first post of this thread, and I've had it for about 3 years. Mind you, I don't use it on a daily basis, perhaps bi weekly or so, but it's definitely held up very well and shows little, if any signs of wear.

If you plan on using it alot, buy the best quality one you can afford.

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