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A little help, please?

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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A little help, please?

Postby madeinchina » 30 Jul 2008 3:22

First things first... I'm using a bobby pin as a pick and a paper clip as a tension wrench. The reason I wanna pick this lock... I'm very very bored and it's just cool to be able to open a lock with a bobby pin. =D

I've read all the tutorials and watched all the videos online and am still confused about something... so here's my question...

I'm using a small masterlock and have managed to open it about 5 times... but... I'm not exactly sure how I did that....

It all seems so random to me as the behaviour of the pins in the lock don't seem to have a pattern I can follow... basically, what I need to know is...

How do I tell when a pin is set and how do I keep it there? Is it set when it is no longer visible? Why can't I push some pins down at all? And... how come sometime I have all the pins down and the lock will not open?


Pretty much everything I've read keeps telling me to try again wiggling the bobby pin randomly with no explantion how.

Thank you in advance for any advice/help!! :]
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Postby Afisch » 30 Jul 2008 3:50

Firstly lose whatever you were reading, there are some great posts on this site which explain all the technique in depth but I'll have a go.

You will struggle with a bobby pin and paper clip, they give little feedback as to the inside of a lock but you may be able to get some idea with them.

The trick is not to keep all of the pins up in the top of the lock, but to lift them each to their indervidual shearlines. That is the point, at varying heights, when the pins will set. The aim is to lift them to this height and no heigher.

This is done by a constant turning force on the tension wrench, even before you start lifting pins, to allow you to feel them set. They will set in an order specific to your lock and only that order.

You find this order by determining when each pin binds against the walls of the lock, they should feel slightly harder to push up and grind against the lock housing. This is a feeling that needs to be learnt.

The tension should be light, but light tension is likely all you can achive with a paperclip anyway.

A pin is set when it feels lighter to lift than all of the others, there will be no spring pressing down on it. You should be able to feel the pin is there but it should be "weightless".

Pins being unable to push down at all means too much tension most likely, or you have already pushed them as far as they will go.

Good luck, if you want to take it up as a consistant hobby, a pickset would be a good idea.
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Postby MacGyver101 » 30 Jul 2008 3:53

I think that DB's Beginner's Lockpicking Exercise should answer most of your questions. It also provides links to both the MIT Guide and the LSI Guide, both of which are excellent starting points to helping you understand how locks work, and how you should approach picking them.

Hope that helps!
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Postby MacGnG1 » 30 Jul 2008 20:37

db's beginner exercise is great to learn!
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Postby madeinchina » 30 Jul 2008 22:49

Hey! Thanks for the tips, guys. I'll check into that right now. :)
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