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abloy

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Do not post safe related questions in this sub forum! Post them in This Old Safe

The sub forum you are currently in is for asking Beginner Hobby Lock Picking questions only.

Postby TOWCH » 16 Aug 2008 20:53

TOWCH wrote:Heating the lock in an oven or with a propane torch will probably help with removing the non-removable pin. Afer you have done this, there is no garuntee against distortion so that lock is no longer valid as a Proof of Concept lock.

If you drill a straight hole, then you can hammer a slightly tapered square pin into it. If you drill a tapered hole you can hammer a tapered round pin to match and that might also work.

My 321 has what looks like a tap broken off in to it. I'm eventually going to try taper ground piano wire with a screwdriver turned and filed to grab the wire, with a ring to lock the wire in place.

As already mentioned, Wire EDM is supposed to be good for removing broken taps and ez-outs and such, but I think it's too expensive to use on an abloy when they have rekeyable versions for sale?

If you encounter a ball bearing the simples way to solve that problem is to drill a hole from another angle behind it to give it some place to fall out. If you're going to mill out a section, that would be a good spot to drill, or if not, then opposite the milled section so that you don't have to look at the hole.

Personally: I think it's a safe assumption that the ball bearing is roughly the same size as the plug you're trying to remove so assuming that it is halfway inside the plug retainer: then just do the above method and forget about removing the broken grub. Then you can tap your hole and put in a removable grub screw.
(Use a center punch and a smaller drill bit to pilot drill a hole to prevent your hole from wandering and missing it's mark)

Fill any imperfections in the non-removable grub with silver solder or epoxy puddy and file, sand, and polish that side of the lock to blend the non-removable pin if you want.
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Postby Jaakko » 17 Aug 2008 3:51

TOWCH wrote:As already mentioned, Wire EDM is supposed to be good for removing broken taps and ez-outs and such, but I think it's too expensive to use on an abloy when they have rekeyable versions for sale?

Actually it is ram EDM that can be used to remove it, but EDM anyway :) And it is not expensive to make your own, here is a good starting place:

http://modelenginenews.org/meng/edm/index.html
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/EDMHomeBuilders/
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