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MAKING A PRACTICE LOCK

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

MAKING A PRACTICE LOCK

Postby prag » 23 Aug 2008 11:34

I have been tinkering with this idea for a long time. What I wanted to do was have a lock that I was able to learn to pick pin by pin. I wanted something that I could remove the pins and only pick one pin or all five pins. I must also just say that this is not my original idea. I think I saw a finished product on the net some time ago. There was also a major gap with when I started and finished the project because I had challenges with getting some tool eg small enough grub screws and allen keys.

Enough talking and lets begin.

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This is the lock. It's a small euro profile oval that I replaced from a previous job. It's a knock off of the Cisa and made in China.



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This is the front view.


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On the top of the lock you can see the holes in which the pins etc goes in.


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The lock is first centre punched to enable a precise drilling point. Then very cautiously, the top or closing pins are drilled out. With this milling machine I just need to attatch my drill to the press and I have a milling machine.

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The first pin out. Remove all the pins. What I found was a great help is to put each pinset (the pins and springs etc) in a small packet and number the packets eg the 1st pin set in packet number one. This way when I'm reassemling it or repinning, I'd know where it should go.


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All the pins removed and numbered. Incidently pin Number 2 & 3 are mushroom pins.

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This is the grub screw and allen key I had a problem getting. Now I know that it can eaily be found at engineer supply stores. The secret to this practice lock is instead of using a closing pin, which will make it semi perminent( have to drill out the closing pin), I've put in a grubb screw that can just be unscrewed and a new\ another pin can be replaced easily.

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These are the four pins ready to be inserted into the lock.

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The lock withonly one pin in it ready to be picked.

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Easily picked. The objective of this is to check the tension of the tension bar or wrench. By applying too little or too much pressure, you can see the effects and this way you can get this tension correct. I read somewhere that the tension on the wrench is the important part. Playing around with varied tension helps with picking process. Another objective is to gain confidence in the picking process. When I have a problematic lock I go back to this lock and start all over with one pin in. Sort of like going back to basics. My attitude is 'if I can do it here, I can do it anywhere' :o

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Two pins & ............................

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Still easy

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All five pins in. A little more of a challenge.

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Open. If at any stage difficulty is experienced, all you need to do is just to go one pin back and build your confidence up and practice on your technique. By also practicing the lock picking process, you learn the fine techniques of lock picking eg fine motor skills. Picking pin by pin. Also build the hand muscles especially in the ball of your hand. Good luck with your practice locks and I have my eye on another lock to convert to a practice lock. I also intend using this method on a mortice lock. I'll be back :!: :!: :!:
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Postby Buggs41 » 23 Aug 2008 11:46

That is a great idea!

Quick and easy re-pinning for practice.
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Postby l618 » 23 Aug 2008 12:55

That's pretty much the way medeco does it too :p
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Postby MacGnG1 » 23 Aug 2008 17:37

looks pretty good to me
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Postby Legacy712 » 24 Aug 2008 0:59

I would imagine you'd have to be careful not to screw in the hex screw too much, or you could squash the springs. Also, if the screw had a protruding dimpled tip, you could grind it flat so that the screw wouldn't take up as much space over the spring.

You could also put in stronger springs, then vary the depth of one or more screws to put more or less spring pressure on some of the pins without removing them, to make it more difficult to pick.

Very nice job! Good thinking! Good pix.
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Postby maintenanceguy » 24 Aug 2008 9:17

A good idea. But as King Solomon said 3000 years ago:

"What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun."

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Postby New-York-Locksmith » 26 Aug 2008 2:53

Great idea! I'll definitely try it.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 26 Aug 2008 10:31

The Lock Sport Enthusiast, 20% metalurgist, 30% Locksmith, 50% machinest. :lol:
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Storm Door Lock

Postby ElizabethGreene » 9 Sep 2008 12:52

Prag: Somebody stole your idea! ;)

I just rekeyed a Larson storm door from Lowes. It had a similar lock and already had the holes tapped and capped with set screws.

It had a KW1 keyway so I was able to make the owner's house key work in the screen door too. They were happy.

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Postby prag » 13 Sep 2008 7:53

ElizabethGreene wrote

Prag: Somebody stole your idea!


Prag wrote

I must also just say that this is not my original idea. I think I saw a finished product on the net some time ago.


I know that your statement was tongue in cheeck but I must add that I stated that this is not my idea. In fact I was going through some other post in Europe Lock,Picks and Hardware and I discovered a similiar lock to mine but with a few different angles I didn't think of.

Please, if I offended anybody I apologize but I did state it was not my original idea. Thanx for all the feed back :lol:
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