sargent deadbolt?

[Lockopener]

do sargent deadbolts(im really sorry i dont know model) uasualy have security pins? i can only seem to set 4 pins. the farthest one back i cant get.
if there isnt any security pins, any advice?

[Lockopener]

i dont think these are high security locks... if they are soz

also i cant seem to take it apart, ive tryed everything

[n2oah]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "soz". An explanation is certainly in order. Sargents may or may not be considered high security, depending on which model you have. If it is standard-looking pin tumbler, it is most likely not high security. Generally, we consider Sargents to be a mid-level pick. Sargents locks can be found here. This will probably help in identification of your lock.

[Lockopener]

soz=sorry,i read somewhare that the classification of "high security" was something other that a masterlock or a kwickset(im not to sure) and i didnt want to make the moderators mad/
i have the conventual cylinder
the reason i have no info is that my local locksmith gave it to me for a buck

[Raymond]

If your Sargent cylinder is a standard cylinder there are usually no security pins. Sargent usually uses very long top pins and bottom pins that are round instead of pointed where they meet the key. They are otherwise normal in all aspects of pin tumbler locks. Sargent does use a different slope angle between cuts and duplicates are often difficult to make accurately. This can also lead to a difficult combination where a small pin is shielded by a long pin. This makes normal picking very difficult.

[selim]

When pinning a Sargent cylinder the pin stack's must equal 15.When you use a # 6 bottom pin the top pin should be # 9,a bottom pin of # 9 top pn # 6,ect,ect.
I hope I explained it good enough.

selim

[Lockopener]

so pretty much this lock is to much for a begginer?

[David_Parker]

Sargents can be very difficult to pick. I've only picked one or two in the field. I believe they have a very high MACS rating, allowing for some complex pinning. Good luck pinning them, they're also known for having a serious number of keyways!



-Dave.

[Raymond]

Not at all. The Sargent can be a great lock to learn on.

[Lockopener]

thanks for the info, im going to go see if i can get a kwickset for 10 shillings... er eh dollars