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Help with a BEST lock

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Postby ridinplugspinnaz » 15 Sep 2008 9:23

Hey ady, did you ever get around to making a tension tool to attack the control shear line? I'm curious to see if you were able to make a decent approximation of the Peterson SFIC tools :D
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IC wrenches

Postby mkultra23 » 15 Sep 2008 17:06

those peterson tools IC tension wrenches are too expensive much like a lot of their other products though they are quality. Very cheap and easy to make marking the spacing of the teeth by placing a core next to the blank wrench and marking the spacing and flat width of the ejection ports.
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Postby selim » 15 Sep 2008 17:19

mkultra23 wrote:anyone interested in a copy of the currently available BEST keyways PM me your e-mail and I'll send you a copy.



I'd love to get that list,dose it come with keyway profiles?

What kind of thing are you into,maybe I can send you somthing.

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Postby Jaakko » 15 Sep 2008 23:01

selim wrote:email address

Points 1 an 3: http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=715

Thank you.
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Re: IC wrenches

Postby ridinplugspinnaz » 15 Sep 2008 23:58

mkultra23 wrote:those peterson tools IC tension wrenches are too expensive much like a lot of their other products though they are quality. Very cheap and easy to make marking the spacing of the teeth by placing a core next to the blank wrench and marking the spacing and flat width of the ejection ports.


It kills me that I don't have any metalworking facilities available to me, otherwise I would've made my own by now... but hey, that's what apartment living will do for ya :? Not exactly a wealth of space in which to work with much more than a dremel, let alone having a safe workspace to deal with bits of metal going everywhere. Oh well. Depending on how bad I want to remove this core, I may just end up buying the Peterson IC toolset, I guess it just hasn't come to that yet...
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Postby mkultra23 » 16 Sep 2008 8:18

you should just get a dremel. if that's out of reach a warding file is perfect and inexpensive.
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Re: Help with a BEST lock

Postby fjardeson » 16 Dec 2008 20:19

Cool. SFIC's are really fun. Now try to pick the control shearline and pull the core!

:idea:
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I'll call your S&G 8500 and raise you a RKL-10!
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Re: Help with a BEST lock

Postby ragnwald » 18 Dec 2008 18:53

I have a question about the Peterson SFIC tool. I bought there tool that they recommend for the Best G keyway but I haven't got any result yet. What I wonder is if the part of the tool marked with red on the first picture really should touch the part marked red in the second picture when the tool has engaged the holes. I get the feeling that this adds tension to the operating sheer line instead of the control sheer line. Isn't it ment to only add tension to the holes?

The pictures:
sfic1.jpg

sfic2.jpg
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Re: Help with a BEST lock

Postby mkultra23 » 18 Dec 2008 19:17

you need some flat tooth picks to wedge either side of the wrench in order for it to place tension on the control sleeve.
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Re: Help with a BEST lock

Postby ragnwald » 18 Dec 2008 20:57

mkultra23 wrote:you need some flat tooth picks to wedge either side of the wrench in order for it to place tension on the control sleeve.


Do you have any pictures of that? I don't really get what you mean.
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Re: Help with a BEST lock

Postby mkultra23 » 19 Dec 2008 13:27

sorry I don't have any pictures but your Peterson wrenches should have come with illustrated instructions showing this method. What you do is center the IC wrench in the keyway making sure the teeth are firmly placed in the ejection ports, and then stick one or two flat toothpicks into the keyway so that it wedges against the wrench to hold it in place. It really isn't easier than it sounds, I've always found it to be a pain to get a perfect alignment, but that's the common method used to isolate tension to the control lug
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Re: Help with a BEST lock

Postby ridinplugspinnaz » 23 Dec 2008 8:00

mkultra23 wrote:sorry I don't have any pictures but your Peterson wrenches should have come with illustrated instructions showing this method. What you do is center the IC wrench in the keyway making sure the teeth are firmly placed in the ejection ports, and then stick one or two flat toothpicks into the keyway so that it wedges against the wrench to hold it in place. It really isn't easier than it sounds, I've always found it to be a pain to get a perfect alignment, but that's the common method used to isolate tension to the control lug


The irony here is that in my experience, the harder part has been finding the flat toothpicks... actually I'm still looking for some!
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Re: Help with a BEST lock

Postby mkultra23 » 23 Dec 2008 10:29

Ridinplugspinnaz "The irony here is that in my experience, the harder part has been finding the flat toothpicks... actually I'm still looking for some!"

Seriously! This is why I don't use them. That and the fact it's nearly impossible to stop the teeth from slipping out even with the toothpicks, besides it would seem that wedging into the keyway would inherently put torque on the plug and thus the operating shearline. I've had more luck picking the control using a normal tension wrench.
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